Dami Gospoda Kollegi i Kolezhanki
S Novim vas Godom
I chtob on bil ne huzhe ili luchshe prezhnego
Zhivia v zagadochnoi otchizne Is goda v god desiatki let 
Mi piem za russkij obraz zhizni
Gde obraz est' a zhizni net

Dorogie vypuskniki 30ki,

Vesnoj 1999 goda Irine Yurjevne Bazhenovoj ispolnjaetsja 70
let. Po etomu povodu nekotoroe vremja nazad mne pozvonila
Galina Semenovna Klimovitskaja, ne imejuschaja dostupa k
Internetu, i prosila podelit'sja s vami sledujuschimi
soobrazhenijami:

1. Galina Semenovna polagaet, chto sredi uchenikov Iriny
Yurjevny, v nastojaschee vremja prozhivajuschih v Amerike,
est' te, kto hotel by sdelat' Irine Yurjevne podarok k
jubileju.

2. Galina Semenovna dumaet, chto v tekuschej rossijskoj
obstanovke naibolee razumnym podarkom javljaetsja denezhnyj.

3. Galina Semenovna, kotoraja druzhit s Irinoj Yurjevnoj
uzhe mnogo let, schitaet, chto Irine Yurjevne budet
znachitel'no legche prinjat' denezhnyj podarok, esli on
budet kollektivnym. Krome togo, kollektivnyj podarok
pozvolit nam nabrat' nekuju summu, kotoruju, chto
nazyvaetsja, "ne stydno podarit'".

4. Galina Semenovna prosila menja organizovat' sbor i
dostavku deneg, a takzhe nadpisat' pozdravitel'nuju otkrytku
s imenami daritelej, kupit' tsvety.


Esli u vas voznikli kakie-libo voprosy, budu rada na nih
otvetit'. Ljubye mnenija, al'ternativnye predlozhenija i
idei - privetstvujutsja.


Den'gi prisylajte, pozhalujsta, po adresu:

  Nataliya Yanchevskaya
  1253 Beacon Street, Apt. A-2
  Brookline, MA 02446

Moj e-mail: nyanchevskaya@hotmail.com

S uvazheniem,
Natasha Yanchevskaya (1990,2).

Hi,

My name is Misha Davidson. I never had a pleasure of attending 
school
#30, but a good friend of mine named Dania Kukui (Russian spelling 
is
Kykyi) did. I know that he is in Israel now and I am trying to 
establish
contact him. I would greatly appreciate any help you could give me 
in
locating him.

Dania must have graduated from school in 1988, then studied in 
"Pervom
Medicinskom" institute. He immigrated to Israel in or around 1994 
and
now is doing his medical residency. If you have any information 
about
him (especially a phone number), I would really appreciate it.

Thanks for your help.

Happy New Year,
-Misha Davidson
mbd@silverstream.com

Dear friends,

After so many years at the Office of Technology Assisted Learning, 
our site has to move now to the Math department. 

The new url is http://www.math.umd.edu/~bak/30


The old address will disappear soon, so please update your 
bookmarks now.

Boris

Zdravstvuyte, 
mne nuzhno vremennoe zhilye v San Francisco Bay Area, California, 
nedaleko ot Mountain View s 12/20 po 1/22. Esli kto-to mozhet 
pomoch, pochaluysta, otkliknites' do sredi.
--Volodya

Galina Dymkova (1988, 2) have contributed her
new school photographs. Please come and enjoy!

http://www.math.umd.edu/~bak/30/photo/gd/

Zdravstvuyte, net li u kogo okazii iz New Yorka v blizhayshee 
vremya (do kontsa goda, skazhem)? Spasibo.
--Volodya

Dear friends,
I would like to inform you that
Anniversay Meeting for the people graduated from
St.-Petersburg University will take place on the 28th of May next year. It
will be held in Tavricheski Palace. Please visit for details University WEB sites http://www.cape.nw.ru/meeting or http://www.spbu.ru   
It would be great if you can  organize mirror sites to distribute
this information and inform all your university friends.
Best regards.
Lena Zakharova (Koursish)

Znaet li kto-nibud' chto-nibud' pro K.I.Izotovu? Kak u nee dela? 
Gde ona zhivet? Telefon?

Privet, folks!

Sorry about bothering you again. Spisok rassylki teper' opyat' na
majordomo servere i vy mozhete posylat' soobsheniya ne boyas'
chto vam vernutsya otskoki ot nelegal'nyx addressov. Address
spiska ostalsya tem-zhe: 30ka@cis.upenn.edu.

Esli chto ne tak, pishite pis'ma mne syuda: milevin@cis.upenn.edu

Tak, povtorenie - mat' ucheniya:

to subscribe to the list, send subscribe to 30ka-request@cis.upenn.edu
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to see who is subscribed, send who to 30ka-request@cis.upenn.edu

Vse, spasibo.

ML
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Friends,

Thank you so much to all of you who signed the "move on" petition. You should 
be proud of yourself. We together accomplished a lot! You were one of more 
than a quarter-of-million of people who did that. And look, what a difference 
did you make! The lawmakers got the message. They realized, that it is time 
to get back to the business they were hired (or elected, like some of us 
prefer to call it) to do. As a result, the Asian economy shows signs of 
improvement. Hopefully it will transfer to the improvements in Russian 
economy as well. Even the most conservative analysts admit that the message 
was loud and clear. And it was you who helped to fight "the bad guys." It 
was definitely something to brag to your future grandchildren about!  

Boris Aleiner
Class 68-4
borisa@worldnet.att.net
 

Dear, Sasha Okrainsky!
Where are you?
I have the hot message for you.
Please, respond me!
agroset@tx.technion.ac.il

Dear friends,

Michail L'vovich Shifman just published a book  (" Posobie dlia
uchitilej po resheniju fizicheskih zadach").  No doubts, it is an 
excellent book that can help our children to learn Physics.   
It is also  a great memory for us all who graduated from 30dka.

American 30-ka Fund is organizing the charity subscription to Shifman's
book for American and Canadian alumni.  As we know, Keren fund is
doing the same in Israel. This subscription money will be send to Russia 
to cover actual cost of books, organizational and mailing expenses and
some small honorarium for Shifman.

The publisher prints the book by portions of 500 copies. 
Printing of the first portion was sponsored by the City 
Authorities, and all those copies went to the School.
Unfortunately, the printing has been put on halt, because 
there is no one to finance it. The publisher is ready to keep 
printing the book, if someone agrees to sponsor the work.

Right now Michail Lvovich needs to pay $300 to get the second 
500-copy portion.

Everyone is welcome to buy one or several copies, or simply
to donate money specifically to help with  publishing costs for this 
book.  Please, send your checks and  your mailing address (with note
about number of copies) to:

                     Simon Klebanov
                     P.O. Box 603
                     Bar Harbor, ME 04609


Although the printing in Russia is cheaper than in the United States
and even $10 would cover the printing and shipping, we expect that 
buyers will send a little bit more, for example, $20 - less than the 
regular price for the textbook in US.

The difference will help to cover  publishing costs of as many
additional copies as possible.  We are also planning to use  any
remaining amount as a honorarium for Michail L'vovich to compensate, 
in part, the long time Michail L'vovich spent to write the book and to 
organize publication.

Please pass this information to your relatives and friends who might be 
interested in buying the book and to those 30-dka alumni who is not on 
this e-mail list.

We would like also to remind you that  the American 30-ka fund 
just started  to collect 1998 annual contributions to help the
retired and acting teachers  to survive during the hard times 
in Russia and for the Olympiad "Baltic Way".  We are planning 
to deliver your donations and subscription money  to the school 
in the beginning of December.

-----------------------------------------------

Budaev, Gusev, Kagansky, Klebanov, Efroimsky

Iosif Yakovlevich Verebeichik is currently in CA and going to MA next 
week, whoever interested to see him send me E-Mail.
He will be in and around Boston till Nov/20 and party will be at 
B. Gokhman's home at Nov/14.

American 30-dka FUND announcement:

     Dear friends!

     Last year we collected 1,735$ from which 1,700$ were delivered to
     retired teachers (M.L. Chshuchko, L.I. Patokina, I.Ya.Verebejchik,
     V.I.Pozhidaeva, I.I. Dvorkina, K.I.Izotova) and spent for
medications
     (V.L.IlUin). (For details see http://www.kagansky.com/30-ka.html).

     We believe that helping retired and working teachers is and will
     be a top priority of the fund.

      This year, once again, our fund has been asked to cover
     expenses of the 30-dka mathematical team  at the math
     Olympiad "Baltic Way".

     We have also received a few specific suggestions from the fund
contributors, such as a present for T.I.Kursish,  and distribution in US
of a new book written by M.L.Shifman (to be announced soon )

     To continue helping the school our FUND needs your monetary
contributions.

     For the fund to function efficiently your ideas and suggestions
     are essential!

             Help 30-ke!  Send you contributions for 30-dka FUND in
America to:

                    Simon Klebanov
                     P.O. Box 603
                     Bar Harbor, ME 04609

     Send your suggestions and recommendations to the fund
     Bulletin Board:  http://www.kagansky.com/Fund.html
     -----------------------------------------------

     Budaev, Gusev, Kagansky, Klebanov


     P.S.  Please send your contributions by Dec 1, 1998 to make
planning
     of fund's activities possible.

I am a former student of T.I.K. (1996,1), and I can say
that the original meaning of "culinary college" was neither
"easy cash vs. honest work" nor "those who can vs.
those who can not".

Her usual argument in my time was: "Maybe you cannot
solve a problem which require a sudden insight - not all people
are gifted enough, or you just had a terrible headache that day...
But there are problem which require technical skills and
understanding of math - and you can learn to solve all these 
problems, if you study hard. You may afford yourself not solving 
those insight-requiring problems, but you may not afford yourself 
being lazy and uneducated - if you do, 30ka is not for you, the 
culinary college is your school"

And this is maybe the best thing I ever learned :-)
Cheers,
Mitya Lomov

My friend is looking for a good Electronic Engineer, expert in digital and 
analogue electronic, English is not imported (can be somebody who just came 
from Russia.)  The company is very small, so they cannot pay a lot but they 
offer good benefits, flexible hrs, and etc.  Do you know anybody who may be 
interested?  G. My phone is 301-260-0168 (Washington area)

Uvazhaemye fiziki i matematiki.

Nash spisok rassylki pereexal na drugoy address. Emu nadoela
Indiana i on dvinul v Philadelphiyu. Novyi address teper':
30ka@cis.upenn.edu. Proshu lyubit', zhalovat', i dobavit' v svoi
knizhki. Staryi spisok poka eshe funcioniruet, no bez garantii.

Esli vy poluchili eto pis'mo po e-mailu, vy podpisany na novyi
spisok. Esli hotite podpisat'sya ili otpisat'sya, shlite privet 
na milevin@cis.upenn.edu. 

Stranichka Borisa Kozintseva uzhe sostykovana s novym listom.

Izvinite za neudobstva.

Vsego xoroshego,

ML

Dear friends,

one of the articles about V.Il'in as the teacher of the 
year you can read (in Russian) in "SPb Vedomosti" from 
15.10.98:

www.dux.ru/koi8/spbved/arts/spbved-1864-art-27.html

Other newspapers "Izvestia", "Rossijskaya gazeta", 
"Komsomolskaya pravda" published articles at 15.10.98 
too, may be anybody find on their web sites?

Sincerely,
Sergei Voitenko (67,3)

I am quite a bit suprprised by the transformation 
of the "culinary college" idiom. I've heard it a lot 
in the late eighties (though not directly from 
Ms. Kursish), and in that time it absolutely did not 
mean "easy cash vs. honest work" dichotomy. It merely
denoted "those who can vs. those who can't", or
"extraordinary vs. ordinary". 

Besides, in terms of the expected income mathematical 
school graduates obviously beat culinary college alumni 
hands down.

Boris

Bolee tochno eto zvuchalo tak:

> 
> ot grazhdan ondoi malenkoi 
> no ochen' gordoi _znakomstvom s Vami_ strani kadri dlia 
> kotoroi vi stolko let gotovili mozhet bit ne zhelaya togo"
> 

Dear graduates and post graduates former puples of T.I. Kursish
You can find an oustanding article about T.I. by V. Rozhansky 
at the following address (Russian only, I am afraid)
http://www.dux.ru/enpp/newspapers/nevrem/arts/nevrem-1835-art-26.html
regards                    Eugene Schlachter
P.S.At the meeting I like the best Keren-30 message  "ot grazhdan ondoi malenkoi 
no ochen' gordoi strani kadri dlia kotoroi vi stolko let gotovili
mozhet bit ne zhelaya togo"

Dear friends,
Please find enclosed a brief report on the celebration of 
Kursish’s anniversary.

The celebration took place in the school building, the number of 
guests was about 300. T.I. arrived in a white Limousine of the 
type that are used by Arabian sheikhs-as long as three normal cars.
She was escorted by a driver and a guard. Those who saw her coming
out of this car lost their ability to speak. The celebration 
started with demonstration on video the fragment of speech of her
former pupil Vladimir Il’in (now the teacher of mathematics in 
30 school) in Moscow on the ceremony of receiving the award 
«Teacher of Russia». On this ceremony he suggested to applaud in 
honor of his teacher T.I. The people in Moscow were applauding 
(including the Prime Minister) the guests in Petersburg also 
started to applaud and T.I. came in. During the official part 
there were congratulations from the leading Universities of 
St. Petersburg, city authorities, teachers. Then came greetings 
from all graduation years starting from 1958 year and ending by 
the year 1998. Almost each of congratulations was accompanied by 
small poem or song, a lot of guitars were used. The podium was 
covered with flowers. One basket was from Israel club "Keren-30"
The official part ended with the announcement of the present - 
a trip to Canary Islands for 10 days.It was a complete surprise 
for T.I. Then informal part took place -drinks, contacts etc. And 
at last - departure of T.I. in the white Limousine. Next day the 
newspaper «Newskoe vremya» published an article «Science or 
Culinary College» devoted to T.I. 

Message from Taisiya Ivanovna Kursish
Dorogie  moi rebyata, vypuskniki raznyh let tridtsatki!
Ya  beskonechno  blagodarna  vam za tot prazdnik, kotoryj vy
vse  mne  ustroili.  Vashi pis'ma, telegrammy, zvonki, vashi
teplye   slova-   eto   bal'zam   na   dushu,   eto   glotok
zhivitel'noj   vlagi,  kotoryj  dayot  mne  sily.  Tseluyu v
schechku. Vasha T.I.

>Yura Koblents-Mishke  wrote:
>
>Dear Sergei:
>
>I am afraid I did not received the original message by M.Chepovetsky. I
>tried to find it in the 30-tka bulletin board, unsuccessfully. Nor could
>understand it by your quote (fragment?). 
>
>May I ask, please, to forward it to me?
>
>Sincerely
>        Yura (1968-1).
>
>
>Notary Chamber of St.Petersburg wrote:
>> 
>> >Michael.Chepovetsky@chase.com wrote:
>> >
   Following part of the message was omitted:
============
>> >Re: VIVAT V.L.Il'in!- Confirmation 
>> >
>> >Sergei,
>> > 
>> >Thank you for the news. I sent e-mail to V.L. and was trying to call him,
>> >but nobody answers - is his phone changed recently? 
>> >
>> - It was not changed, but V.L. used to switch his phone off after he became 
>>   a famose person.
===========
>> > Also, is there any article about the matter one could read
>> >online? If not - maybe somebody in SPb could scan and post one for us
>> >overseas?
>> - I'l try to find but I can't promise anything.
>>   You can find fresh information and comments about our events on web-sites:
>> 
>>              www.sptimes.ru
>>              www.iews.org     (free subscribe on Russia Regional Reports)
>>              www.rferl.org
>>              www.cnn.com/specials/1998/09/crisis.russia/

    About "Teacher of the year" concurs (you know, it occurs a copy of USA 
    concurs!), up now I could find only the old site:

                www.redline.ru/projects/teacherHome.html

>> 
>> >
>> >Thank you.
>> >
>> >Michael Chepovetsky (76-3)
>> >
    Best wishes,
    Sergei (67-3)

Lotvinov Eugene wrote:

> Gospoda.
> At last year you help to students. Thank you very much.
>  Now i ask you to help team of 30 school once more. In november 1998
> the
> math. Olimpiada BALTIC WAY will take place in Warshaw. At this year
> the
> city administration doesn't give money to this Olimpiada.
> The team is consist of 4 students and 2 teachers-Kohas' and Chelkak .
> In order to arrive at Warsaw they needs:
> 6 tickets on railway :  130 x 6= 780 USD
> 6 visa :                          5 x 6= 30 USD
>
> total   810 USD.
> Please send your answer as soon as possible.
> Best regards.
> Lotvinova Marina 1980(6).
>

   SPb 30 school club can pay at least $30 for visas.
   You can get money at school from the teacher Schurukhin,
   cllubs "kaznachei", via club co-chairman M.L.Shifman.

    Best wishes,
    Sergei Voitenko (1967,3)

>Michael Chepovetsky@chase.com wrote:

> Also, is there any article about the matter one could read
>online? If not - maybe somebody in SPb could scan and post one >for us overseas?
- I'l try to find but I can't promise anything.
  You can find fresh information and comments about our events on 
web-sites:

             www.sptimes.ru
             www.iews.org     (free subscribe on Russia 
                               Regional Reports)
             www.rferl.org
             www.cnn.com/specials/1998/09/crisis.russia/

>
>Thank you.
>
>Michael Chepovetsky (76-3)
>
Best wishes, 
Sergei

Dear Sirs,

Today I have sent the letter in which I have asked to give me
information about Kostianovskaya L.I. Unfortunately, I did not
write my e-mail address in Canada. It is:
Sylvia.Esterby@cciw.ca.          
It is valid until Oct 26, 1998.
With best wishes,
                            Igor Bovykin

Dear Sirs,

I am looking for Kostianovskaya Lubov' Isakovna who graduated 
the school in 1966 or 1967. I'll be grateful to you if you send 
me her address, phone number or email address.

My e-mail address on the top of the letter is valid only untill 
Oct.26, 1988. My email address in Russia is
                    crown44@yohoo.com
My phone number in Canada
            (905) 632 8760    home
            (905) 336 4620    office
They are valid untill Oct.26, 1998.
My phone number in Russia is
            (812)  580-4024
With best wishes,
                      Igor Bovykin

Igor Katsman wrote:

> Na dnyah do menya doshlo soobschenie (unconfirmed) , chto
> V.I. Il'in  priznan (ili kak eto govoryat,
> udostoen zvaniya)
>
> "UCHITEL' GODA ROSSII"!
>
> Pozdravlaem!!!
>

V.I.Il'in really won this honor name in official concurs among 
all russian teachers ( not only teachers of mathematics), and 
even got a prise "Khrustal'ny Pelikan".
The official procedure of award was shown on TV in Russia.
Members of SPb 30-school graduates club congratulated him at their
meeting at October 17.
V.I.Il'in is rather busy now with mass-media representatives, but
everybody can send him congratulations in club address  
"info@sch30club.spb.ru", where he is co-chairman.
By the way, another co-chairman M.I.Shifman has 62-nd birthday 
today.

Sergei Voitenko (1967,3)

take me off too--I don't even know you people!  How the hell did 
I get on this thing to begin with?!

As I understand, some people unrelated to 30th Physical and
Mathematical School of St. Petersburg, Russia, have got accidentally 
subscribed to this mailing list. 

If you do not want to receive messages from this mailing list, do 
the following, please:
Send an e-mail message to
   mailto:majordomo@indiana.edu
with the words
   unsubscribe milevin_30ka
in the body of the message (commands in the subject are not
processed).

Regards,
Mitya 
(1996,1)

______________________________________________________________
Dmitri S. Lomov
mailto:dsl@tepkom.ru
http://www1.tepkom.ru/users/dsl 
http://young.tepkom.ru
(+7-812)-428-46-57 (b)
(+7-812)-295-94-15 (h)
ICQ#: 20524819 (Rusty)

May I please unsuscribe to this newswire??  Thank-you

Dear Eugene & Marina!

You can take in account our US$ 300.   
Let me know if it won't be enough. We'll try to mobilize more.

How can we transfer this money to you? 
Please pass our best wishes of success to the team.

Best regards,
Eli Kislyuk.
"Keren-30", Israeli 30ka graduates Club.

Igor Katsman wrote:
> 
> Na dnyah do menya doshlo soobschenie (unconfirmed) ,

You can be sure. It is really so. He even was on TV, in 1st channel News ("Vremya")
VIVAT!!!

Regards,
Mitya

> chto
> V.I. Il'in  priznan (ili kak eto govoryat,
> udostoen zvaniya)
> 
> "UCHITEL' GODA ROSSII"!
> 
> Pozdravlaem!!!
> 
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> + http://www.math.umd.edu/~bak/30/school.html

Nu da, kak ge kak ge, my pomnim:
" S uvageniem, data, podpis', otvechayte nam, a to:
Esli vy ne otzovetes', my napishem... v sportloto"...

ThugX42, please, don't take it personally. Many people
on this mailing list try to prove how great they are.
Man came to England, she has to prove that all others
in the world are idiots. To make quiet primitive search on 
Altavista with 63K results on trigonometry is above his
possibilities - the world will not hear of him.
May be I have to unsubscribe too :( I do not do that only
because sometimes messages like anniversary of my lovely 
Kursish concern me.
This list is low-traffic, so you can simply ignore
the most of the messages. Yes, just smile and ignore
the numerous spam of the mailing list. Alternatively,
you may also create a simple filter with keywords like
"teacher", "meeting", names of your teachers etc.

Shimon (10-2, '84)


ThugX42 wrote:
>take me off this list i dont want any more crap mail

>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-milevin_30ka@indiana.edu
>[mailto:owner-milevin_30ka@indiana.edu]On Behalf Of Andrey I Bovykin
>Sent: Sunday, October 18, 1998 4:07 PM
>To: milevin_30ka@indiana.edu; nobody@otal.umd.edu
>Cc: aib@for.mat.bham.ac.uk
>Subject: Trigonometria
>
>
>Tovarischi,
>ya uchu odnogo rebenka (zdes' v Anglii),
>postupajuschego v Oxford.
>Ne znaete li vy  dvux-trex xoroshix zadachek po trigonometrii?
>Ja byl by ochen' priznatelen.
>A to tut nikakix normal'nyx zadachnikov tipa Skanavi nety.
>
>S uvazheniem,
>
>Andrey Bovykin
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
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>+ To submit an article, send it to milevin_30ka@indiana.edu.
>+ Send administrative commands to majordomo@indiana.edu.
>+ If you have a comment, send it to  milevin@cs.indiana.edu .
>+ 30ka web page by Boris Kozintsev is at
>+ http://www.math.umd.edu/~bak/30/school.html
>

take me off this list i dont want any more crap mail

Tovarischi,
ya uchu odnogo rebenka (zdes' v Anglii),
postupajuschego v Oxford.
Ne znaete li vy  dvux-trex xoroshix zadachek po trigonometrii?
Ja byl by ochen' priznatelen.
A to tut nikakix normal'nyx zadachnikov tipa Skanavi nety.

S uvazheniem,

Andrey Bovykin

Na dnyah do menya doshlo soobschenie (unconfirmed) , chto
V.I. Il'in  priznan (ili kak eto govoryat,
udostoen zvaniya)

"UCHITEL' GODA ROSSII"!

Pozdravlaem!!!

Gospoda.
At last year you help to students. Thank you very much.
Now i ask you to help team of 30 school once more. In november 
1998 the math. Olimpiada BALTIC WAY will take place in Warshaw. 
At this year the city administration doesn't give money to this 
Olimpiada. The team is consist of 4 students and 2 teachers-
Kohas' and Chelkak .
In order to arrive at Warsaw they needs:
6 tickets on railway :  130 x 6= 780 USD
6 visa :                5 x 6= 30 USD

total   810 USD.
Please send your answer as soon as possible.
Best regards.
Lotvinova Marina 1980(6).

Dear friends,

As a follow-up to his recent message on the 70th
anniversary of T.I.Kursish, Vladimir Rozhansky (1970, 1) 
have sent us her photo.

http://www.math.umd.edu/~bak/30/photo/Kursish2.jpg
Boris

Who know the telephon # or address/e-mail of Elena Ignatova,please,inform
Yurij Etinger.
His address is: frantsuz@onti.vniim.spb.su
for YuSET
Thanks in advance

Friends,

I am using this forum to address mainly the graduates who choose 
to establish the residence in the USA. I am looking for your help. 

The USA now is in the unprecedented crisis. It is virtually 
without a leadership for at least a couple of months. 
We are all graduates of the same school. We are all very proud 
of it. Having said that, I think that each of us think 
differently, has different ideas and a different understanding 
of life. As far as I am concern, it is perfectly O’K to think 
that it is "high crimes and misdemeanors" to "screw around", 
while being a President. I also think that it is perfectly O’K 
to be really scared - as I am - that the Orwell’s predictions are 
coming true in the USA - that is supposedly in the foundation of 
the world democracy.  I am scared that the mother is forced to 
testify against her daughter, that the friends are forced to 
testify against friends - everything goes to achieve the goal of 
toppling a democratically elected President. 
No matter what your believes are, however, it is important to 
realize, that the World cannot afford to keep the USA without 
its leadership for so long time. Unfortunately we see the adverse 
results of it not even "close to home", but right AT home – the 
economy of Russia, while showing a real hope half-a-year ago is 
in the shams. 
It is completely "up to you" to believe what is the cause and 
what is the effect of the world developments. However I doubt 
that it is pure coincidense that the sharp downturn in the 
world prosperity and "the Lewinsky’s matter" had happened at 
the same time. 
I am not the only one who thinks that it is time to put this 
matter aside and let the leadership (President and a Congress) 
to address real issues. There is a bipartisan effort to do it 
started by the co-founder of the software company 
"Berkeley Systems" (some of us know that company by their 
screen savers software). They suggest one pretty attractive 
option for every spectrum of believes. They suggest to meet 
half-way. I mean that people like me, for example, expect  
no less than the immediate trail of K. Starr for his crimes 
against humanity. People on the other side of the spectrum want 
to do the same thing with B. Clinton. And what the movement 
founders are saying is: "forget the vengeance, let’s censure 
the President (so he would realize that there is a difference 
between a motel room and an Oval Office) and let’s let him do 
the job he was hired (elected) to do". I hope that it is 
persuasive and acceptable for everybody (unless one is a 
politician pursuing one’s own goals).  

Now here is how you can help. 

1.Go to the WEB site 

http://www.moveon.org

2.  Read the information there.
3.  ADD YOUR NAME AND E-MAIL ADDRESS TO THE PETITION! 

It will tale no more than 5 minutes of your time and it might 
(literally) save the world!

Thank you.

Boris Aleiner
Class 68-4
borisa@worldnet.att.net

Dear friends!
This is to inform you that we are going to celebrate the 70th
anniversary of the 30th school oldest mathematician  T.I. Kursish.
The ceremony will take place on October 21 in the school building
(199406 St. Petersburg Shevchenko street 23, corpus 2) at 5 p.m.
Any kind of contribution is welcome. Additional information is 
available by e-mail: rozhansky@phtf.stu.neva.ru or by phone
(812)-316-01-34
Best regards Vladimir Rozhansky

Folks,

What Yuli just said is exactly correct. 

The only real issue is the TOEFL exam. Having graduated 
from the #30 easily puts you in the top 10% of the mankind 
GRE-wise; TOEFL, however, is a different matter, and you need
a score of 600 or more. Once you have it, consider yourself in;
if you have less than 550 - try harder. 550-600 is a gray area.

The place to start is the Mayakovsky library on the
intersection of Nevsky and Fontanka - they have all the
relevant stuff available, including applications and study
materials. Ask for directions to the "otdel inostrannoy
literatury".

Boris

In the previous message, talking about financial 
side of graduate schools, I meant first to write 
that a salory of Research or Teching assistant 
makes it possible to repay easily debts made 
in Russia while leaving the country, and is 
fine for living in the US.

I then shortened this sentence and got a mispelling
"leaving" instead of "living" . Sorry for this.

Yuli 

Hi!

This message is addressed to those who have recently 
graduated or are about to get a diploma in 1999 from the 
Universities/Institutes.

In a recent year, 1998, leading US Universities 
became increasingly interested in strong graduate 
students -- graduate student is the term analogous 
to the russian term "aspirant". Entering a PhD program 
in a leading US university and its succesful completion
opens opportunities to start a career in academic/
government US institutions or to join US industry/
finance private sector. In time, it may also bring  
the US permanent residence.

Joining any Graduate School requires obtaing 
research/teaching assistantship or fellowship 
from a corresponding university, which automatically 
means tuition waiver-- one need not pay fees for 
studying in a graduate school. Decisions on fellowships/
assistantships are made on a basis of merits/applications.

The characteristic scale of Assistanship/Fellowship 
is 1000-1300 $ per month. One need not additional sourses
of money for leaving.

The deadlines for applications in most of Universities 
is January. To apply, one needs to pass tests like 
TOEFL/ GRE. Instructions can  be presumably found 
in libraries or over the internet. The application 
fee is around 50$ in each of Graduate Schools. 
Sometimes, one may appeal to wave the application fee
citing dramatic economic situation in Russia.

Several lists of best Graduate Schools can be found over 
the Internet.

If someone is interested, I would be happy to 
advise you on the subject. 

As deadlines are in January, for future applicants 
it is worth starting today.

Good luck.

Yuli Lyanda-Geller 
 

This is in reply to Alla Kapralova's message of 7/24.
I'd like to ask the people who are involved in
arranging I. Ya.'s visit to keep me posted.
I'm located in the Cleveland area and would be happy
to see I. Ya. here, on his way from the East to the
West coast.

I just talked to I. Ya. about it over the phone, and
he does not seem to mind, but his main concern for
now is the U.S. visa. Hopefully it can be arranged.
Let me know if I can be of any help.
Thanks.

Igor

____________________________________________________________

Prof. Igor Tsukerman
Electrical Engineering Department, 
The University of Akron
Akron, OH 44325-3904

igor@uakron.edu
http://www.ecgf.uakron.edu/~igor
phone (330) 972-8041,  fax (330) 972-6487

http://www.theonion.com/onion3323/russianstation.html

Dear friends, 

My name is Sergei Voitenko (1967, 3), I work at the 
St.Petersburg Chamber of Notaries as the chief of information 
and computer department. 

I want to inform you about creating 30th school Graduates Club 
in SPb. The goals are the same as existing graduate unions have - 
to help the school mostly. Now we have about 100 members of the 
Club with 15th persons in the Board. Cochairmen of the Club are 
M.L.Shifman (1954), A.M.Eljashevich (1955) and V.L.Iljin (1968). 
The Board together with 30th school teachers and administration 
had a joint meeting in May where first turn needs of the school 
were discussed and listed. Legal documents of the Club as 
noncommercial organization (Ustav etc) are presented to SPb 
Department of Justice for official registration in Russia. More 
information you can find in applied letter of invitation and on 
the web-site .

I am going to visit USA from July 31 till August 23, 1998 with my 
colleague, Commercial Law professor of SPb University. We'll stay 
in New York and have plans to visit Portland (Maine) and 
Washington DC.

As the Club Board member I got the task (from the Board) to 
establish contacts with interested graduates in USA (in first 
turn with 30-ka Fund founders) to discuss possibilities of 
creating official Fund with taxes privileges for contributors 
under USA legislation. So I am open for contacts in mentioned 
cities, where we have places to stay for 1-2 days, and in 
Hartford, Boston, Philadelphia, where we have not, but hope 
that they can appear.

I am open for any occasions SPb-NY and NY-SPb too. Besides I 
shall have with me search-information system  with full 
updated DB in Russian and SPb legislation for official spreading 
in Universities and other organizations.

The school works in usual hard manner. There are some organizing 
difficulties, not so serious. Warm greetings and best wishes to 
all graduates send M.L.Shifman and V.L.Iljin. 

My e-mail address         
in SPb  <  31.07 :      CHAMBER@NOTARY.SPB.RU
and marked "for Voitenko" 
in NY   >  01.08 :     RORTTUNG@IEWS.ORG  

Sincerely,
Sergei Voitenko

==================================================================
                  Dear graduates of 30-ka!

     Half of the year ago on 100 anniversary of the foundation
of  30th  physical and mathematical gymnasium celebration  the
idea of Graduates Association creation was discussed.
     At  21st of March, 1998 the Club of 30th school graduates
was  established.  This  have been done  by  70  graduates  of
different  years  - from 1951 till 1995. Among  founders  were
those, who learned in usual and then mathematical school |  30
at  Srednyi  prospect, in physical school |  38  near  Tuchkov
bridge, and in physico-mathematical school | 30 at Schevchenko
street.
     Created  new  social organization is named by  the  club,
because this name in a most exact manner shares its main aim -
intercourse.  School  graduates found their  calling  in  very
different  kinds of activity, they live not only at  different
cities,  but at different countries, and all of them  remember
their  school,  their  teachers, their  class-mates.  Anywhere
graduates  even from different years have met,  the  words  УI
graduated 30-kaФ, as the words УWe are of one blood with  youФ
from    Maugly   fairy-tale,   serve   as   password,   remove
psychological  barriers and let to find a common  language  in
counted  minutes.  We  need  each  other,  we  need  to   save
connection with the house, from which walls we went  out  into
adult  life,  and with teachers, who gave us  not  only  their
knowledge, but a part of their sole too.
     We  want  Club  to be organization which help  to  adjust
information  exchange among graduates, contacts  of  graduates
with  themselves,  school teachers and  pupils,  organization,
where  every  graduate  could  find  partners  in  perspective
undertaking  and  in difficult time to get necessary  support,
organization  which  capable to give  effective  help  to  the
school  and  her teachers, especially those who left  teaching
for reasons of health or age.
     The  lawyers  -  graduates of our school - are  preparing
documents, which let us to carry out state registration of the
Club.  In  the  middle of April the project of this  documents
will  be  submitted  on wide discussion.  At  May  23,  common
meeting  of Club members will take place, where the  documents
should be approved.
     The Club Web-site is now opening into Internet.
     Preparation started for the school museum creating.
     Connections  with  foreign associations  of  30th  school
graduates  are establishing. In Israel such association  works
yet, in USA one is organizing.
     We  start  to  create the graduates Fund -  noncommercial
international  organization appointed to attract  and  collect
means  for realization serious projects, such as a project  of
moving school in new building, adequate to XXI-century physico-
mathematical school.
     The  work  of  the Club is coordinated by Club  Board  of
administration, elected on Constituent Assembly. Cochairmen of
the  Board  are Mikhail Lvovich Shifman (1954 year  graduate),
Alexei    Mikhailovich   Eljashevich   (1955)   and   Vladimir
Leonidovich Iljin (1968).
     We   build   the  work  of  our  Club  on  the  following
principals:
     Democracy
     Approving  of  significant  solutions  comes  over   wide
discussion,  in which all members of the Club can participate.
The vote of every member presented not only personally, but by
post, fax or e-mail will be accounted.
     Open policy
     All  Board  of administration meetings are open  and  all
decisions approved by the Board may be found on the Club  Web-
site.  For  members  without  access  to  Internet  the   main
decisions will be send by post. All information about the size
of  Club  members  anonymous financial  fees  and  about  Club
expenses is efficiently published on the Web-site. Every  Club
member can check, is his fee accounted or not: the sum of  his
fee will appear in Web-site under his personal code, which  is
known only by himself and paymaster of the Club.
     Solidarity
     Every Club member renders assistance to other ones within
his  powers. When we shall be united and combine our  efforts,
we  shall  be  able to help each other and to our school  more
effective.
     We  invite all graduates of 30th school and 38th physico-
mathematical school to enter the Club and to send your desires
on directions of Club activity.
     To became a member of the Club you can
     -  at modern 30th physico-mathematical gymnasium building
(ul.  Schevchenko, 23-2) on Wednesdays from 15:00  till  17:00
and on Saturdays from 16:00 till 16:00,
     - at Young Pioneers Palace (nab. Fontanky, 36, room 401),
after  previous  call by phone 113-4399 to  the  Board  member
Elena Alexandrovna Druch (1966 year graduate).
     Your desires you can send by post in address:
     
   St.Petersburg, ul. Schevchenko, 23-2, PhMG |30, Graduates
                             Club,
                               
     and by e-mail in address:
                     info@sch30club.spb.ru
                               
     The Club Web-site Internet address is:
     
                     www.sch30club.spb.ru
                               
     Any other information about Club activity you can get  by
phone  271-5101  in  the office of the  Board  member  Tatjana
Mikhailovna Potapenko (1972 year graduate) at any time.
     
            The Board of 30th school graduates Club

For the former students of I.Ya.Verebeichik and for all others who 
may know and love him: he is going to visit USA starting 
approximately at the end of September. The students from his class
69-3 invited him. We just started to plan his visit. We have some 
definite places for him to stay: East Coast (Boston) and West Coast
(San Jose, Los Angeles).
If anyone wants to participate in any way (invite I.Ya. to the house,
get together with him, take him for sightseeing, be a sponsor, etc)
or just to share any ideas, please post your messages or e-mail me 
directly at alla.kapralova@roche.com
Please pass this message if you know anybody who may be
interested and is not on the mailing list.

Regards,
Alla
  

Folks,

We are seeking the right candidate for one of the positions
in Market Risk Department at Morgan Stanley (NYC). The following
is a list of requirements:

1. A must: MFC/C++, VB, at least some COM/OLE, SQL;
2. NT admin knowledge/experience and willingness to do that;
3. Reasonably hacker type or at least doesn't mind doing that;
4. Creative thinker and a quick learner;
5. UNIX is not mandatory, but highly desired.

Those of you who are interested, please send me
an e-mail message with a resume attached (sasha@ms.com).
Phone calls are also welcome: (212) 761-4120.

All the best,
Sasha.

I have just got back from St.Pete, where I was very glad to 
become aware of this URL and the list (shame on me!) and
of the various meetings of 30-ka (which seem to have 
happily involved some of those from 38-ya).
 
Does anyone know if there have been any plans of a re-union 
meeting  for the 1973 graduants of 38-ya or was it all
part of the 4 April meeting of 30-ka?

I wish to hear about/from somebody from 38/1973-e or
some of our teachers. BTW, is there anywhere a list of
staff currently working at 30-ka (sorry if I am not
careful in browsing), or some contact links to the teachers
who have worked at 30/38?


Cheers,
Sasha

Apologies for the long lines in the earlier message.
Here's the same thing with better formatting.

Subject: calculators 
Privet!

I was delighted to learn that my web-site, the Museum of
Soviet Calculators, has been mentioned in this forum, and
linked from the school's web-site.

I'm an Australian collector of electronic calculators
manufactured in the former Soviet Union, and would encourage
any of you to visit my site and, of course, provide any further
information that you can.  I am keen to buy more calculators
for my small collection, so if you have one of these that you
wish to sell - please let me know.  I'm safe to deal with, and
have many references - both Russian and other.  I try to offer
very attractive prices for these calculators.

If you DO visit the site, make sure you read "The Ballad of
Igor and Vlad" - an amazing small-world story, showing how a
guy in Australia (me) can re-unite old school friends from
Russia.

Here's the URL;  I hope you visit...

Museum of Soviet Calculators
http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/slide/calculator/soviet.html


Cheers
A

Who know the address in USA of Klimovitzkaya Galina Semenovna,please,inform me.I try to find her.
Best regards
Thanks in advance

Misha, 

I tried to send my reply directly to you because I have no intention 
of opening a discussion - this is my opinion, I'll stick with it and 
I am not trying to change yours (or somebody's else). Since the 
delivery failed and I deem necessary to let you know 
what I think, I have no other option but to post this message on BB.

Please think about what you've written. You want more letters about 30ka. 
About what specifically? "About 30ka" is an abstraction. If somebody 
writes about a crack in a school's wall - it's about school and if about 
our alumnus health problem - it is not? Why we are so callous that we want
to keep in touch with other alumni but hear only good news? Why we find 
time and money to get together and socialize and please ourselves but 
not to help the ones in need?

The very recent example: how many former Il'in's pupils replied to my 
message about VL's needs? Yes, we collected money so he can buy his 
medicine for more than a year (if a year from now the price stays the 
same). But out of 9 people who donated money - no more than 6 his former 
pupils. Out of - my very rough estimation - more than 50 registered 
(in the US alone). Regrettably, none of the rest seem concern about the 
issue (not reading BB or e-mail falls in this category).

Regards, 

Michael Chepovetsky (76'3) 

Sorry, URL is:
http://www1.tepkom.ru/users/dsl/homepage/11class.html

Regards,
Mitya

______________________________________________________________

Dmitri S. Lomov
E-mail          : mailto:dsl@tepkom.ru
Homepage URL    : http://www1.tepkom.ru/users/dsl
Phones          : +7-(812)-428-46-57 (b), +7-(812)-526-71-34
(h)

I have created a homepage of 11-1, 1996 at
http://www1.tepkom.ru/users/dsl/11class.html
Everybody welcome, escpecially my former classmates.

Best Regards,
Mitya (1996,1 as you could guess)

______________________________________________________________

Dmitri S. Lomov
E-mail          : mailto:dsl@tepkom.ru
Homepage URL    : http://www1.tepkom.ru/users/dsl
Phones          : +7-(812)-428-46-57 (b), +7-(812)-526-71-34
(h)

Dear fellow subscribers,

If I were to choose between no messages at all versus 
all kinds of messages no matter how loosely related
to the number 30 and the letter sch, I would strongly 
prefer more messages. For it is far easier to hit Delete 
when you are not interested than to find an audience when
you want it.

B

Gospoda !

Pri vsem moem uvajenii i sochuvstvii k bol'nym ..., mne 
kajetsya chto etot list postepenno othodit ot svoego 
pervonachal'nogo naznacheniya.
Mne by hotelos' videt' v nem list, posvyashchenniy 30-oy shkole, 
a ne medicine, ravno kak i drugim postoronnim veshcham. Uje 
ochen' davno chislo 30 voobshche ne figuriruet v pis'mah. Ya ne 
prizyvayu k moderirovaniyu lista, net. No mne by hotelos', chtoby 
lyudi pishushchie syuda prejde vsego podumali, a prednaznacheno 
li ih poslanie dlya soten lyudey, kotorie ego poluchat, i ne 
luchshe-li bylo by poslat' ego tomu cheloveku, kotoromu ono
deystvitel'no nujno napryamuyu. Poprav'te menya, esli ya 
oshibayus'.

S uvajeniem,
Michael Ginzburg

A Novel Enzyme Found in CFS Patients May Alter Cellular Processes 

Dr. Robert Suhadolnik and his research team at Temple University School of Medicine reported today that studies of patients with
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) have led to the identification of a new human enzyme. Suhadolnik, a professor of Biochemistry
and a member of the University's Fels Institute for Cancer Research and Molecular Biology, says of the new findings: "We are
greatly encouraged by the trend we see. All CFS patients tested have this new enzyme, while none of the healthy controls do."
The new findings, reported at a research meeting sponsored by the American Association for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, are
based on preliminary data from a limited number of patients. However, larger studies are already underway and have attracted
financial support from the National Institutes of Health.

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, also known as Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome (CFIDS), is a complex illness
characterized by incapacitating fatigue, neurological problems and a constellation of other debilitating symptoms. The cause of the
illness is unknown and, since no drug has been found to be effective against CFS, treatment is limited to alleviating the symptoms.
CFS affects at least 500,000 American adults and children.

The newly discovered enzyme may explain common observations in patients with CFS: an inability to control common viruses (like
Epstein-Barr virus and human herpes virus 6) and an inability to maintain cellular energy. According to Suhadolnik, the viral
pathway in which this newly discovered protein is active, known as the RNase L antiviral pathway, may control both processes.
"This new enzyme in CFS may not function as well as the normal RNase L found in healthy people. It may explain why CFS
patients' bodies have a hard time maintaining the energy necessary for cellular growth. We are hopeful that ongoing further studies
will lead to a better understanding of some other processes at work in this puzzling illness." The new findings add to mounting
evidence of subtle, yet striking, abnormalities found in people with CFS.

"Because the new enzyme has been found in CFS patients but not in healthy controls, it is potentially the basis for a laboratory test
for CFS, which is diagnosed today only through its clinical symptoms," says Dr. Antonio Goncalves, Associate Vice Provost for
Science and Technology at Temple University. The University has filed a patent application for such a test and is seeking a
corporate partner to further develop and license the test. Goncalves and Suhadolnik caution, however, that additional studies of
much larger patient populations are required before the clinical utility of a test can be demonstrated. 

This study was funded by the National Institutes of Health and The CFIDS Association of America, the nation's largest and most
active charitable organization dedicated to conquering CFIDS. Other Association funded research will be presented at the
research conference which continues in San Francisco through October 16. 

First, a short foreword. A friend of mine who is unfortunatelly 
not a 30 school graduate but nevertheless a very nice person by 
nature and a molecular biologist by profession, has recently 
visited his home town (Riga) and had a cup of tea with Oscar 
Strok's grand daughter (Stroks used to be his parents' 
neighbours I think but he didn't know them personally). He was 
very upset and worried by what he had seen and heard, and 
decided to try to help. He is soliciting information, ideas 
and suggestions. If you have any, please contact Dmitry directly. 
Please do not reply to me or to the entire list. Thank you.

-Victor

========================================================

Greetings,

        I am searching for information about Oskar Strok, 
composer and lyricist of tango music. I have just begun my 
inquiries, and my knowledge so far is limited.  Here is a 
summary of what I have learned:

        Strok lived most of his live in Riga, Latvia. He was a
prolific composer of popular music and created more than 300
pieces,mostly tangos, waltzes, and fox-trots. He frequently 
wrote his own lyrics, as well. Oskar Strok's music was 
enormously popular in Eastern Europe and especially in the 
Soviet Union in 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s.   Peter Leschenko, a 
singer of incredible talent and popularity, also from Riga, 
recorded a large number of Strok's songs in Riga before
the war. Strok was a wonderful pianist and he accompanied
many famous singers who performed in Riga between the two wars. 
His songs were performed by all of the superstar Soviet singers, 
including Leonid Utyosov and Klavdia Shul'zhenko. Millions of 
people knew his songs, danced to his music, fell in love to it 
and listened to it when their hearts were broken.  I am sure 
that many Soviet children were conceived under his music and
therefore he is responsible,  in a way, for the birth of 
generations of Soviet people. His most famous and most 
frequently performed song is "Chyornye Glaza"(Black Eyes) 
(not to be confused with "Ochi Chyornye").
He wrote both music and lyrics for this song.  The first few 
notes and the first words of the song " O eti chyornye glaza..." 
are engraved on his tombstone by his granddaughter Tatyana 
Strok who still lives in Riga.

        After the war, Latvia was occupied by Soviet troops and 
Strok was accused by Soviet authorities of being a "bourgeois 
ideologist" and his songs, which were still very popular in 
Soviet Union, were performed without acknowledgment of the 
author of the music. I was told that Strok was even imprisoned 
at that time. His music was not published in the postwar years. 
There was a period in the 70s when interest to his music
returned, and the one and only Soviet record company, Melodia, 
released a collection of his music performed by the company 
Ensemble Melodia, conducted by Garanyan.  The record became a 
big hit and many families still have it, emigrants brought it 
here. There were several other recordings in the postwar 
period: at least one other LP and a few singles. Strok died in 
1975 at the age of 82, a poor and forgotten man. There were no 
books written about him, no chapters. I know of two 
publications in the Soviet press and was told that there were 
couple of articles in Latvian newspapers in the Soviet period. 
The information about him is very limited. I hope that I will 
know more after I meet with his daughter in Moscow and will 
visit his granddaughter in Riga a second time this summer.

        Strokh's granddaughter, Tatyana, inherited most of his 
archive (or whatever is left of it) and his grand piano which 
was manufactured by RONISCH (O with umlaut).  I visited Strok's 
granddaughter for the first time two weeks ago in Riga.  The 
family (four people) is very poor and they are moving to a two-
room apartment from the three-room apartment which they can no 
longer afford. There is no room for Strok's grand piano in the 
new place and it was put on sale. However, there was no
takers. I am afraid that his archive, which is already depleted, 
will soon perish.

        I am trying to find a home for an Oskar Strok archive 
and I am trying to raise funds in order to do it. I want to 
place his archive in the public domain, like a Department of 
Music or a Music Library, not in private hands, so people will 
be able to enjoy and study his music.

        I hope that you will find some use for this limited 
information. I also hope that you will find something else 
about Oskar Strok because he created beautiful music which we 
should preserve for people to enjoy.

Please send me any information you have about Oskar Strok.

Thank you in advance.

Please respond to:
dgoldgaber@mail.psychiatry.sunysb.edu

Sincerely,
Dmitry Goldgaber

Dear all!
Any of you who know present address phone e-mail of Dima Volovats 
(1981-6) please let me know. We lost him, last location --Israel, 
he was planning to move to England

Hello folks.
I apologize if you find this mail irrelevant, but this is
exactly what I am going to clarify.
I lost (or never received?) the digest with purposes of this
mailing list. All messages I've got so far dealt with request for
or charity activities (kind of "give me...") I did not see
discussions about 30-ka, problems, stories about teachers,
success stories of graduates etc.,i.e.  what I was expecting 
from this kind of list. Tons of "kljukva" might be very important
(despite I do not understand why one should get from Russia and 
not from States or Canada) but, in my humble opinion, absolutely
irrelevant to this mailing list. Please, correct me if I am wrong.
I am not supposed to change the order of the World and if this is
the main purpose of this mailing list, let me know, may be 
through a private mail.
And, please, if owner of this mailing list is listening, please
change the first four lines of the message footer to one line:
"To unsubscribe send command... to ..." If you'll review 
critically what you have in the footer, you'll understand what 
I am talking about.

Dear friends,

In contuniation of my previous message about the help for Ludmilla 
Asimov, I send her another request. If anyone can help her, please 
me or her know.

Yours,
Eli.

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Subject: cranberries
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:28:58 +0300 (GMT+0300)From: Ludmilla Asimov 
To: Eli Kislyuk

Hi!

U menia yest dovolno strannaya na perviy vzgliad prosba, no dlia menia eto
ochen serioyozno.

Mne nuzhna klukva, prichem mnogo, neskolko litrov soka (bez sahara) v den.
Delo v tom, chto ona ochen silnoye gematologicheskoye sredstvo.

Zdes ona practicheski ne voditsia, razve chto v vide varenya, a yego ya ne
mogu yest nastolko mnogo, chtoby nabrat nuzhnoye kolichestvo, i ono
soderzhit massy lishney dlia menia driani.

Yest li kakoy-to sposob dobyt mnogo klukvy zdes ili kak-to perepravit is
Rossii v deistvitelno bolshom kolichestve?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ludmilla Asimov
e-mail:    asimov@shum.cc.huji.ac.il
phone:     +972-2 991-0860
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I`m a member of Computer Graphics Support Group.
I have finished this school with name of the best 
programmer of the 11-th classes.
I`m leaving in St.Petersburg, studing in IFMO.
I have 3 FIDO adresses.

You can send me mail to fido or to E-mail.
I`m a fond of music, programming, hacking, etc...

My E-mail -> Fido Adress is 
Sergey.Konopatov@p200.f306.n5030.z2.fidonet.org

See you...

Hi,

I've stumbled upon a truly great site:
http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/slide/calculator/soviet.html
It is so relevant I've even linked it from the school page.

Boris

Dear Friends,

more photographs from V.L.Il'in scanned by M.Chepovetsky
are now available at
http://www.math.umd.edu/~bak/30/photo/chepm/students.html and
http://www.math.umd.edu/~bak/30/photo/chepm/misc.html

Please come and enjoy.

Boris

Dear friends,

please come and enjoy a new collection of photographs which
V.L.Il'in had sent recently to M.Chepovetsky.

href=http://www.math.umd.edu/~bak/30/photo/chepm/teachers.html
http://www.math.umd.edu/~bak/30/photo/chepm/students.html

Boris

     Dear friends,
      We've recently opened a math school for kids of the Russian
speaking parents here, in Boston. The purpose of our school is not only
to teach math ,physics and computer science. We are trying to recreate
the atmosphere that existed in many of the specialized mathematical
schools in Russia. We are convinced, that out kids will benefit if they
have a chance to meet outstanding and interesting people. We think that
mathematics is important, but what is more important is to create the
social and intellectual surrounding that would enrich our kid's lives
and even may be determine their future interests. We are looking for
talanted and enthusiastic people and also for any kind of suggestions,
support, involvement, that you or your friends can give.
Please, see our Web site at: www.russianschool.com
You can contact us at: russianschool@erols.com

   Respectfully,
    Inessa Rifkin

Dear friends, 30ka alumni,

Below enclosed the letter from Ludmilla Asimov (1983, 3), which 
I've received yesterday. PLEASE READ IT - perhaps anyone could 
help her. 

Luda's e-mail address: asimov@cc.huji.ac.il
and home phone number is +972 2 991 0860.

Yours,
Eli Kislyuk

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Subject: need help
Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 22:22:26 +0300 (GMT+0300)
From: Ludmilla Asimov 
To: Eli Kislyuk 

Hi!

I understand that the medical information is normally confidential
but I hope I have a right to distribute any information about 
myself. Especially since now I need all the help I can get. So 
feel free to publish anything about me, if I don't state 
otherwise. And I apologize for writing in English, by some odd 
aberration I type in English much better than in Russian. 

So what I wanted to tell you is following. I got diagnosed as CFS
(chronic fatigue syndrome). THis is something that looks like both
the vascular system and the immune system are failing to function.
I have had some sort of a vascular disorder for years, and in 
Russia they termed it dystonia and thought that it's all because 
of nerves (it is not actually), and it was slowly growing worse 
and worse till this winter-spring my health just broke down.  The
local doctors can diagnose it but don't know what to do, so I was
just told to get used to live with how it is, and either I manage
by myself or I don't. So far I more like don't, especially since
I am kicked out from the university and can't work. 

What it is like? Well, in brief I am very weak, and dizzy, and 
have heart and leg pains and lack of breath, and very high and 
irregular heart rate, blood pressure either low or the difference
between systolic and diastolic very small, and sometimes blood 
circulation in various parts of the body almost stops, and fever,
swollen and painful glands and lymph knots. I have a more detailed
and accurate list of the symtomps and blood tests done for 
medically inclined but it's too long to include it here, so if 
anybody really needs it they have to request.

In Russia they either try to give sedatives or think it's 
infection and treat it with antibiotics which just complete 
suppress the immune system and kill the patient. Here they at 
least do nothing.

As to the alternative medicine, I've been using it for years, and
by now it has just ceased to help me anymore.

Sometimes I have a better day and can go out for a walk or do some
shopping though haltingly (I even managed to arrive to the last
get-together) but there are also days (more often, unfortunately)
when I can't get out of bed at all. And I don't manage with a lot
of everyday tasks - everything becomes a problem, especially 
since I am alone in Israel and came here relatively recently, on 
Sukkot 1996 (around a year and a half ago). 

Recently a friend of mine has found me a private medical 
counsellor who has just made aliyah from the States. She has some
ideas about what to do, and managed to find someone back in the 
States who knows of some research done there about CFS. What he
says about the cause is that the body absorbs certain minerals 
(primaty magnesium and zinc) from the food or pills into the blood
(so all the blood tests are just fine) but fails to absorb them 
into the cells, and in addition there can be also some specific 
auto-immune response.

Now my counsellor is trying to reach the people who originally 
perform the corresponding research and get their official letters
of opinion in order to at least perform the necessary tests. It 
still will be long, expensive and complicated story, and the 
success is not guaranteed.

Meanwhile I am not only not improving but even getting worse and 
worse.

So any ideas, advises and whatever are welcome and appreciated. 
If someone calls me directly at home, be warned that sometimes I 
am so unwell that either can't answer the phone at all, or when 
I answer it I just fail to understand who with and what about I 
am talking, so take it easy if I say strange things.

If someone knows or has a way to find who in Israel does some 
research in either CFS, or minerals/vitamins absorption by the 
body in general and by the cells in particular, or autoimmune 
disorders, please let me know. For me it's really a matter of 
life and death.

Thank you very much in advance.

Ludmilla Asimov

To Il'in's Alumni:

Friends, we just received a letter from V.L. It's full of regards and 
pictures (hope to scan and post them soon). But he also asks for 
help - and, knowing him for quite a while, we can tell that this is 
the first time he asked for something for himself - 
which means that he _really_, desperately needs our help.

After his heart surgery he needs - for the rest of his life - to take a 
medication. It can be bought in SPb but a month's course costs about $50, 
which is 1/3 of his salary. Maybe we could make him not to worry about 
the money for a year (or two).

Please don't post your replies (if any) - send them to chepm@usa.net. 
Thank you.

M.Chepovetsky (76,3)
A.Davidovich (80,3)

>
>
>----------
>> From: Mariya Gutman 
>> To: vliberman@usa.net
>> Subject: Math School
>> Date: Sunday, April 19, 1998 11:16 PM
>> 
>> Dear friend,
>> This letter is asking for your help.
>> 
>> The attached (MS Word file) is the  short information about the
>> new private Math School in the San Francisco Bay Area for Russian
>> speaking students
>> grades 5 to 12. The summer semester will start at the beginning of May,
>> so we are running out of time now.
>> 
>> Please forward this e-mail to your friends,  relatives and your other
>> respondents in Bay Area,  who might be interested   in this information
>> themselves or could know people who are.
>> 
>> It would be great help for us!
>> 
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> Mariya Gutman
>> mariya@infolane.com
>> 510-440-0929
>> 
>

It was last Saturday (4 Apr)

I put some fotos from it
on http://www.techno.spb.ru/~xbatob/30-ka/

Now there are 12 fotos mainly of our teachers and my classmates.

        Hello!

Be happy with me: I pass exams to the aspirantura with best marks!

                Peter Shepelev

I am looking for Ilya Melamed (1996, x) who imigrated to USA
several years ago and lived in Brooklyn. Please email me if
you know how I can find Ilya.

Zdravstvuyte. 
Net li u kogo okazii iz Peterburga v Shtati v 
blizhayshee vremya? Esli est', to, pozhaluysta, 
otkliknites' po email'u. Spasibo,
-Volodya

Dear friends!
I beg your pardon in advance for using the BB for such purposes.
Maybe, anybody has an idea how and where the tool for building
the enterprize Web - "Power Site enterprize" of Sybase, Inc., -
can be sold (for a price less than in the price-list).
   This package was won by my son Michael, as he was victorious
in the computer-soccer trivia quiz organized by Sybase, Inc.,
in Tel-Aviv. However, he serves in the army now, and therefore
he doesn't need such a powerful package...
I thank you in advance...
Yours,  Boris S. Medved from Haifa

======================================================================
 KEPEH 30  KEREN 30  KEPEH 30  KEREN 30  KEPEH 30  KEREN 30  KEPEH 30  
======================================================================

Dear friends,

I'm happy to inform you that The Second Israeli 30ka graduates picnic 
will be held on Friday, April 3rd, 1998, 14:00 at Park Leumi (National
Park), in Ramat Gan, near the Safari.

School physics teacher Galina Isaakovna Rogozina will participate in 
this reunion. Her visit in Israel is a good reason for such meeting. 
Boris Samsonovich Medved as usual will be with us too.

Consider this message as a personal invitation and come with your 
families. Pass this information to your friends, 30ka (38) graduates. 
Bring everything what is suitable for picnic and barbicue. 

For those who don't have private transport to reach the place - 
contact before March 29 Benjamin Dysin by e-mail or by telephone and 
give him the following information:
- your name;
- place of living;
- number of passengers.

He will collect your requests and publish them one week prior to the 
meeting by massmail and on the web page and ask the people with their 
cars to give "tremp" to others.

For more information you may contact with us:

Alex (Sasha) Osetinsky, the reunion organizer. 
Telephone: 04 822 5790 (home) 04 829 2466 (work)
E-mail: agroset@tx.technion.ac.il

Benjamin (Venya) Dysin
Telephone: 052 383 181 
E-mail: benj@bdbd.net

Eli (Ilya) Kislyuk
Telephone: 052 254 051 
E-mail: elikis@netvision.net.il

Yours,
Eli Kislyuk.

======================================================================
 KEPEH 30  KEREN 30  KEPEH 30  KEREN 30  KEPEH 30  KEREN 30  KEPEH 30  
======================================================================

Dear friends!
M.L.Shifman asked to inform, that 30-ka alumni club/association in Russia is going to be created. "Uchreditelnoe sobranie" will take place at school, March 21, 15.00.
All graduates are very welcome.

Hi folks!

I,m trying to renew contact with Irina Slutskaya (1974,7).
The last information I have -- she lives in USA and works for
FTP Software ...
Are there anyone who knows more?...
I'll be glad to recieve any information.

Best wishes for all of you from St.Petersburg

Andrey Vasiliev, wa@neva.ru

Dear 30-ka graduates
Those of you who graduated from 113 school
35 year of school foundation will take place this Saturday
February 28 at 11 a.m. at school After registration we will proceed to 
Maxim moovie house to cintinue
Good chance to see some old chaps
PS The school every year sent about 4 puples to 30-ka

Hi, guys. This message is primarily intended for those 
living outside of the US and who would like to try to
get in and get a programming job. 
Currently the company I'm employed with is seeking for
software programmers, and if you're interested, you can 
give it a try. The qualifications that are asked for are
good practical knowledge of C++, Windows programming, 
MFC, preferrably new technologies like DirectX, COM. 
Working environment mostly is VC++, although Borland is 
OK as well. Usually a candidate is asked to provide 
resume and a project that would show his programming 
skills that he claims to have, and then, if our managers 
deem this candidate to be interesting, an exhaustive 
technical interview is conducted over the phone. Note: 
fluent english is desirable, but isn't a must 
(in fact, some of the programmers here could barely 
speak or understand english at all when they just came).
You have to have at least a good C++ knowledge to do 
that, Windows and MFC experience is a big advantange.
So, if you think you can try or have any questions, 
write me at the address above.

Denis

PS If you know of somebody who might be interested and 
is a skilled programmer, tell them as well.

Q: Why would someone study physics or mathematics anyway?
A: http://www.freelines.ru/art/litera/golden/main_k.htm

(cyrillics required)

Dima Roubashkin (Dmitry@apple.sch239.spb.ru) asked me to post
the following information about our 25th anniversary of graduation 
(school #30 only).

The celebration is scheduled to take place on April 4, 1998 in the 
school building. More than 100 of our schoolmates are expected to 
attend. All our teachers will be invited. All kinds of memorandums, 
pictures, audio clips etc. will be appreciated.

Please pass this info on to other 1973 30-ka graduates. Thanks.

Hi !
We've opened the "Russian rock in Israel"
maililist.
For info visit

http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~vassilii/ru-rock-in-il/
or e-mail me for details.

Dear Friends,

Benjamin Dysin (1991,2) has sent in his great new 
school photographs. Please enjoy them at 
http://www.math.umd.edu/~bak/30/photo/bd.

A short comment for the old-timers. The second image is
obviously the new school building at Shevchenko. Glassed
balconies, the stylish crystal cap above the entrance and
the stupid plaque (zoomed in on the first image) are 
post-1989 additions. The third picture is taken at the
Shiffman's physics auditorium, and the last one is from the
4th floor smoking room.

Boris Kozintsev

     Lyudi:
     
     Te, kto ne znal Mikhaila Davidovicha Monosova (Mishu- 
     programmista), byvshego vypusknika i prepodavatelya
     programmirovania v 30shk., uehavshego v 1977g., mogut
     propustit' etu zametku.
     
     Ostal'nym soobshchayu, chto nashel ego vchera v dobrom 
     zdravii. Zhivet vo Flatbushe. Vskole posle priezda on 
     brosil programmirovanie i poshel v Yeshivu. On uchitsya 
     Tore i uchit drugih. Est' dazhe nebol'shaya russkaya 
     gruppa. Ego filosofskii stil' nichut' ne izmenilsya, 
     nesmotrya na polnost'u izmenivshiisya oblik. Obraz zhizni - 
     spartanskii, pyatero detei, sil'nye byudzhetnie 
     ogranicheniya. 

     Zhizneradosten, peredaval vsem privet, osobenno Sashe 
     Grossmanu i Tul'chinu (po-moemu, konchivshim v 1972 g.). 
     Compyuterom i prochimi blagami civilizacii, krome telefona, 
     ne pol'zuetsya. Pogovorili ochen' teplo... Mogu sebe 
     predstavit', chto on dumaet o moem obraze zhizni... 
     On vsegda byl v moem predstavlenii yarkim chelovekom s pust'
     ne vsegda racional'nym, no interesnym i nestandartnym 
     myshleniem...
     
     Prishlos' rasstavat'sya, kogda emu prishlo vremya
     vozvrashchat'sya k svoim zanyatiyam. Ya vyshel iz ego 
     doma, kak iz drugogo mira, sel v svoyu dvazhdy piknuvshuyu 
     signalizaciei mashinu i pokatil mimo kontrastno roskoshnogo 
     Manhattana v svoi nichut' ne bolee feshenebel'nye Washington 
     Heights...
     
     Za podrobnostyami zvonite 212-568-3007 (9pm-10pm), 
     e-mail: liefe@mskcc.org
     
     Zhenya Lifshits

Dear friends!

Israeli graduates of the 30th and 38th schools decided to set 
their own club. Official documents required to register 
this club by Israeli authorities were signed in Haifa on  
December 12, 1997 by supervision of lawyer Marina Heifets 
(1973, b-38). Roman Fridlyand hosted the ceremony.

The formal club founders are:
Boris Samsonovich Medved (1977-90, Teacher),
Alexander Galper (1970, 7),
Roman Fridlyand (1973, b-38)
Anatoly Babushkin (1976, 2),
Yuri Shenderov (1980, 2),
Eli Kislyuk (1981, 7),
Benjamin Dysin (1991, 2).

We are expecting to receive final approvement from the 
appropriate authorities in Jerusalem.

Some decisions:

- Every graduate of 30th Gymnasium (30/38 schools) and other 
people concidering themselves related to it in some way can be 
Club member. Members list is managing by the coordinator, 
Eli Kislyuk (elikis@netvision.net.il).

Among club aims you can see:
- mutual help of the club members and related people;
- support of the SPb 30th Gymnasium's teachers, pupils and 
graduates;
- cultural, educational and other activities;
- employment and informational support for club members and 
related people in Israel.

- The annual fee for members is set to US$ 45 in 1998 in addition 
to regular voluntary donations. The "Keren-30" Fund which was 
established in May 1997 will be part of "Keren-30" Club.

By the way, the Hebrew word "keren" has a few different meanings: 
"fund", "ray", "horn" etc.

Happy Hanukkah, Happy New Year and best wishes to everybody!

On behalf of founders of "Keren-30" Club
Eli Kislyuk.