Dear Fellow 30-niki and 30-nitsi
Happy New Year
May all your dreams and expectations come true.
Special greetings to my class mates who can be reacjed trhru this B&B
and all graduates of 1981
Special thanks and Mew Year greetings to Boris The List Keeper
Eugene

Dear friends!

Israeli graduates of the 30th and 38th schools decided to set 
their own club. Official documents required to register 
this club by Israeli authorities were signed in Haifa on  
December 12, 1997 by supervision of lawyer Marina Heifets 
(1973, b-38). Roman Fridlyand hosted the ceremony.

The formal club founders are:
Boris Samsonovich Medved (1977-90, Teacher),
Alexander Galper (1970, 7),
Roman Fridlyand (1973, b-38)
Anatoly Babushkin (1976, 2),
Yuri Shenderov (1980, 2),
Eli Kislyuk (1981, 7),
Benjamin Dysin (1991, 2).

We are expecting to receive final approvement from the 
appropriate authorities in Jerusalem.

Some decisions:

- Every graduate of 30th Gymnasium (30/38 schools) and other 
people concidering themselves related to it in some way can be 
Club member. Members list is managing by the coordinator, 
Eli Kislyuk (elikis@netvision.net.il).

Among club aims you can see:
- mutual help of the club members and related people;
- support of the SPb 30th Gymnasium's teachers, pupils and 
graduates;
- cultural, educational and other activities;
- employment and informational support for club members and 
related people in Israel.

- The annual fee for members is set to US$ 45 in 1998 in addition 
to regular voluntary donations. The "Keren-30" Fund which was 
established in May 1997 will be part of "Keren-30" Club.

By the way, the Hebrew word "keren" has a few different meanings: 
"fund", "ray", "horn" etc.

Happy Hanukkah, Happy New Year and best wishes to everybody!

On behalf of founders of "Keren-30" Club
Eli Kislyuk.

Dima I can not get in touch with you via mail
That is why I am posting this on B/B
Please check your adddress and send me your comments
Eugene

The quantitative equity portfolio management group at Goldman Sachs
Asset Management (New York, USA) is looking to fill several (3-4)
quantitative equity analyst positions. These are the entry level 
positions.
A successful candidate would have all or most of the following:
1. a recent BS from a US University (1-2 years of experience is OK)
2. educational background or/and professional experience in finance 
3. programming skills
4. quantitative skills

Sorry, but I would also like to mention
1. fluent English
2. a work authorizarion

If you know people who may be interested, please, ask them to send
resumes to len.ioffe@gs.com (better as a Word attachment).

Hi, everybody:

My name is Olga Raskin( Mezheritskaya). I'm looking for my 
classmates. I graduated from 30-ka in 1972, 10-3 class. I live 
in New York (USA). I' ve been living in the USA for about 3 
years. I'm a programmer. I keep in touch with Michael 
Sherr(10-2 class, New York), Alexander Faibusovich(10-6 class, 
Israel), Leonid Merculovich(10-6 class, Toronto, Canada), Maya 
Sablina (10-3 class, St.-Petersburg, Russia). I will appreciate 
any information about my classmates. I know that some of them
used to live in Boston. 
My e-mail address:š OlgaRaskin@juno.com
My home phone: (718)934-5059
I look forward to hearing from you.
                                   šWith love. 
Olga

Friends,

please visit http://views.vcu.edu/~dkapiton/.
The lady in question is the mother of a girl of (1989, 2).

This information was passed on to me by Misha Mogilevsky
of the same class.

Boris

This page is referenced in yahoo under education in St.Petersburg. Here is the address 
http://www.yahoo.com/Regional/Countries/Russia/Cities/St__Petersburg/Education/

Dear friends,

Our thanks go to Vadim Pliner, who provided another
photograph of the N.Y. reunion. It is the last one
at http://www.math.umd.edu/~bak/30/photo/Fall97/reunion97.html.

Boris

I suggest that we keep the money on a account as an 
emergency funs, so we can quickly assignš money as there 
is a real need.

Our experience with olimpiada Baltic Way shows that it takes 
time to raise money, when such time may be critical to 30ka 
image (what else but olimpiadas creates image of Mathematics
School?) or to life when we talk about medical assistance to 
our teachers.

Probably its better to have an account in SPb, but it's 
definitely more reliable to keep it in States, given there 
are people in SPb who could advance cash.

Still I think it's not a bad idea to give 30 team some pocket 
money on per-day basis.

Regards,
Igor Katsman (89, 5)

Hello!

Although Boris is probably right that Centennial celebration is
relevant for gimnasium which happened to be in the old school 
building, I think that any beautiful school like ours deserves to
originate from Slavic-Greek-Latin Academy :-).

Keeping such memories would be especially nice as it helps
not to mix american, english and translit in such words as
"gimnasium" as well as to be attentive to comma's, periods, 
and spelling in our letters to the bulletin board - I agree with 
Michael Levin.

Thanks,
Yuli

  

After my phone conversation with Eugene Lotvinov, we decided that
we send US$ 500 as promised. Eugen could use US$ 350 for 
additional payment for tickets. And our US$ 150 and some Eugen's 
donation will be used for team's "ice cream + caffe" in 
Copenhagen.

Let me advise to our american friends, though this money 
($ 1,400) isn't ours.

You can establish some fund like ours or collect the money and 
wait for next charity project for our school or for our teachers.
For instance, you could ask Marina and Eugen Lotvinov or 
M.L Shifman or V.L.Il'in about school needs. Also example: you 
can establish prize for the best student of the studying year. 
The prize will be trip to US. You can find similar suggestion in 
"Keren-30" web page. See Nick Morozov's opinion in our page. 
A little more initiative, our dear americans...
We have more ideas than money (Senia Klebanov wrote me once 
about "poor Israel") ;-)

But anyway, sorry for my advises. You pay - you decide.

Wishing good luck to you, american friends, and successful 
results to the school team in Denmark.

Eli Kislyuk, coordinator
"Keren-30", the Israeli 30ka support fund.

P.S. I invite you to visit our Fund web page at:
http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~dima/benjamin/30-ka/fund/

Formally, we  collected money for Olympiad and we must 
ask for the permission to use it for something else or, 
at least, give a chance to give up by e-mail if somebody 
disagree. I don't think that it'll happened  and assume 
that we may use the same $1400.

$1400 for ice-cream is too much.  When Senia wrote about 
he meant "extra" $200.  The rest may be used for something else.  
Remember, some months ago the initial idea of Sasha Davidovich 
and Misha Chepovetsky was to help our teachers.  We still did 
not do it.  

The idea of  Elena Ginzburg to establish the fund is attractive 
too. In this case  we need to decide where to keep it, in 
Petersburg (closer to school)  or in the United States 
(more reliable).  Do we have a lawyer among us?  Probably, 
this fund may be a noncommercial organization and donations 
to it may cut the taxes.

Vadim

I have a suggestion.š What if we establish a non-profit fund of 
30-ka? Open a bank account under 30-ka name with a couple of 
trustees and the annual fundrising.š That way we will be better 
prepared for any financial emergencies like the one with 
Kopenhagen.šš The money left over from olympiad this time can 
make the first contribution to the fund.š The legal and financial 
details I am sure can be found out through the banks or somewhere 
else.

Lena Ginzburg
----------

Let me disagree with Yuli and Michael. Both centennial
and millenium if understood literally do not make any 
sense as applied to the school that originated in the sixties. 

Ironically, millenium is a better term:

millenium n., pl. -niums or -nia [ModL < L
mille, thousand + annus, year (after L biennium): 
see ANNUAL]
1. any period of 1,000 years [2000 B.C. through 1001 B.C.
   is the 2d millenium B.C.]
2. a 1,000th anniversary or its commemoration
3. Christian Theol. the period of 1,000 years during which
   Christ will reign on earth: with the: Rev. 20:1-5
4. any period of great piece, prosperity, etc.; 
   imagined golden age.
Webster's New World Dictionary, Third College Edition.

I would go for number 4. Centennial happens to lack this 
meaning :)

Boris

šš > Looking at our bulletin board, I would like just to mention,
šš > that millenium, the word which is used with regards to our
šš > school anniversary in several messages, means 1000 years. 
šš > The correct word is centennial -100 years of the gimnazium
šš > from which the history of 30th school takes its origin.

Exactly. Moreover, the correct spelling of the word gimnazium is
gymnasium.

;-)

ML

Dear Fellow alumni:

Looking at our bulletin board, I would like just to mention,
that millenium, the word which is used with regards to our
school anniversary in several messages, means 1000 years. 
The correct word is centennial -100 years of the gimnazium
from which the history of 30th school takes its origin.

Sincerely,
Yuli

Guys, below you'll find the latest letter from Eugene Lotvinov. 
I need your decision about what to do with the money now. The simplest 
fror me would be just to destroy your cheques. In this case, however, 
all the money will come from the Israeli alumni. On the other hand 
I don't think that to send the amount we have as an ice-cream money 
will be wise. However, of course, it's up to you (us) to decide.

I'm waiting for your suggestions,

Senia

____________________________________________________



Eli Hi
Raionnaya administracija vse taki uspela perevesti den'gi
na schet firmi, no ih ne hvatilo, tak kak otmenili reys Spb-Kopengagen i
komande pridetsja letet' cheres Moscow nedostajuzhuyu summu v USD350 
proshu perevesti na menja po tvoyey sheme.

Lichno ja ideju s ice-cream podderzhivayu. Tochnuyu summu opredelite 
sami, k ney ja dobavlyu svoyu dolyu.

Tochniy otchet o rashodah - dam chut' poszhe.

Bol'shoe spasibo vsem
Lotvinov

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http://206.161.109.6/visa_bulletin.html

Dear fellow Tridcatniks,

while Ben advertises the godforsaken "Chas Pik", I would
like to draw attention to his own Keren 30 site.

It now has a newspaper for 30/38 school graduates! 

Go to http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~dima/benjamin/30-ka/fund/,
and click at the "New Bulletin" in the upper left corner.

My personal opinion is that the Bulletin is just great, and 
interesting for every one of us, not just Israeli Club. 
I sincerely congratulate the Israeli team with the obvious 
success and look forward to the further issues.

Boris

The article about 30-ka's millenium, mentioned by Eugene 
Schlachter(1981, 2), is found (partially, I guess) at 
http://www.spb.ru/chaspik/869/9-30-100-let.html.

B.

Here is our final list. I'll get in touch with you all in a week when I expect most of the cheques to arrive.

> Vadim Kagansky 100
> Alexandr Davidovich 100
> Simon Klebanov 50
> Yura Koblents-Mishke 50
> Anonymous 50
> Ilia Denisov 70
> Michael Chepovetsky 100
> Yuri Gusev 50
> Boris Gisin 100
> Alex Ginsburg 100
> Inna Megretskaia 50
> Igor Borukhin 100
> Constantin Asinovski 50
> Bair Budaev 30
> Anonymous 100
> Elena Ginsburg 25
> Krachkovsky Victor 70
> Boris Lvin 100
> Galya Dymkova 30
> Yelena Tsyrkina 50
> Igor Katsman 30
> ------------------------------
> Total 1,405

šš >šš When people go to a business trip they usually get some 
šš >šš seed money "for ice cream". Taking into account the 
šš >šš excessive amount I suggest to use it for this purpose and 
šš >šš distributeš between the team members, unless there are 
šš >šš more urgent needs. 
šš 
šš I'm ultimately agree, I would also give that money to the 
šš team members. 
šš 
šš This small money may also make the pupil fill more 
šš comfartable in the foring country.
šš 
šš Const *
šš 
šššš 

1. I agree that a bank transfer is the most reliable way to 
   sent more than $1000 

2. When people go to a business trip they usually get some 
   seed money "for ice cream". Taking into account the excessive 
   amount I suggest to use it for this purpose and distribute  
   between the team members, unless there are more urgent needs. 

Dear alumni:

You all probably had a chance to read a message from Eugene 
Lotvinov. So, I'm expecting your cheques ASAP. By then we 
should decide how is the best way to transfer the money. My 
personal guess is that the most reliable way is through the bank.
Our final amount is 1,405$. I'll post the list of people tonight.
The amount is a bit bigger than we were asked for. My suggestion 
is transfer all the money to Lotvinov and keep this additional 
money as seed money for a next appropriate ocasion. Any 
alternative suggestion (about delivery and excess of money) 
are certainly welcome.

Senia Klebanov

Simon and Eli as treusury and all together
Bol'shoe spasibo za quick help.

28/10/97 ja posledniy raz obsudil vozmozhnost' polucheniya money from
the city.
Vopros s videlenijem money do sih por ne reshen. Den'gi na schet
schoolls ne postupjat v etom months.
Firma, kotoraya prodaet bilety, ne daet discount i ne mozhet dat'
otsrochku platezha.
Takim obrazom, ostalas' edinstvennaja vozmozhnost' - vasha  help.
    Pradlagaju sdelat' tak:
     Ja oplachu 30/10/97 vsju summu na poezdku i soobszhaju vam tochno
rashodi
vasha zadacha perepravit' sobrannije money v Saint-Peterburg mne.
Vozmozhni dva sposoba:
1. one banking transfer from USA on my account and one - from Israel (
all banking fees its my fees):
    acc. of UNEXIM BANK, MOSCOW, RUSSIA 890-0060-921
    WITH BANK OF NEW-YORK, NEW-YORK, USA
    IN FAVOUR OF BALTUNEXIM BANK, SAINT-PETERSBURG, RUSSIA,
    ACC. 081030504USD
    FOR MR. LOTVINOV,  ACC. 07060205

2. peredacha s okazieej in Spb ( +7(812) 962-4083 )

Sostav our team:
Sadovnikov Anton 9-1
Gnuton Anton 11-1
Egorov Arseniy 11-1
Simonov Stanislav 11-1
Karp A.P. coach
Kohas' K.P.coach

   Lotvinov
28/10/97
22:58

So, this is probably our final result.š 20 people participated and 1375$ are pledged. In the morning I expect a response fromš Lotvinov and then I'll ask you to send your cheques.

> Vadim Kagansky 100
> Alexandr Davidovich 100
> Simon Klebanov 50
> Yura Koblents-Mishke 50
> Anonymous 50
> Ilia Denisov 70
> Michael Chepovetsky 100
> Yuri Gusev 50
> Boris Gisin 100
> Alex Ginsburg 100
> Inna Megretskaia 50
> Igor Borukhin 100
> Constantin Asinovski 50
> Bair Budaev 30
> Vadim Sokolovsky 100
> Elena Ginsburg 25
> Krachkovsky Victor 70
> Boris Lvin 100
> Galya Dymkova 30
> Yelena Tsyrkina 50
> ------------------------------
> Total 1,375

Dear friends!
M.L.Shifman ask me to send in BB his poem about our school
and all of you.
______________________________________
Ah, elsi b v prazdinichnoj odezhde
Ja mog vsporhnut' pod nebesa
I okazat'sa v Zarubezh'e
Na vremja - hot' na pol-chasa!

Togda b "zhiv'em", a ne zaochno,
Povedal vam v strane ljuboj
O tom, kak my davno i prochno
S "tridzatkoi" svjazany sud'boi.

Nas bylo mnogo na chelne,
Kogda my vmeste nachunali
I druzhno parus naprjagali,
Protivodejstvuja volne.

I, kak vsegda, v proschal'nyi vecher
Ja strofy lirnye chital...
"Inyh uzh net, a te - daleche", -
"Kak klassik nekogda pisal.

My ne iskali legkoi doli,
Vsja nasha zhizn' proshla v bor'be.
My ne sebja ljubili v shkole -
Ljubili shkolu my v sebe.

Vospominanij samyh luchshih
O vas my mnogo let hranim,
I esli oboitos' bez shutok,
My vam "spasibo" govorim,

Chto ne davali nam lenit'sja,
Staralis' nam vo vsem pomoch'
I zastavl'jali nas trudit'sa
I den' i noch', i den' in noch'.

V "difurah", failah, shemah, kvantah
Sumeli vy "sobaku s'est'",
I v nashih Sorosovskih grantah
Zasluga vasha tozhe est'.

Uchenikam my otdavali
Zdorovje, silu, svoi dosug,
Delili s nimi ih pechali,
Kogda "valilos' vse is ruk".

Oni zhe nas v otvet ljubili,
Kak ljubjat mat' ili otsa,
I v pamjati svoej hranili
Ih blagodarnye serdtsa.

I o svoei ne hnychte dole,
Hochu vam schast'ja pozhelat'.
Ja vas lujblu. Chego zhe bole.
Chto ja mogu esche skazat'...

I tol'ko v edinen'i nashem
Uspeha obshego zalog.
Zhivi "tdidzatka"! Bud' vse krashe!!
I da pomozhet vsem nam Bog!!!

   M.L.Shifman: 1997,October
_____________________________________
             
      With love from Haifa,
            B.S.Medved

The Israeli 30ka graduates fund "Keren-30" is ready to send
the sum of USD 500 to S.Petersburg for tickets to 30-ka team
trip to math olimpiada in Denmark.

I didn't receive any disagreement from participants of the Fund.
Like Senia Klebanov, I expect a response from Eugene Lotvinov.

Eli Kislyuk, coordinator
"Keren-30", the Israeli 30ka support fund.
Visit our Fund web page at:
http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~dima/benjamin/30-ka/fund/

The Israeli 30ka graduates fund "Keren-30" is ready to send
the sum of USD 500 to S.Petersburg for tickets to 30-ka team
trip to math olimpiada in Denmark.

I didn't receive any disagreement from participants of the Fund.
Like Senia Klebanov, I expect a response from Eugene Lotvinov.

Eli Kislyuk, coordinator
"Keren-30", the Israeli 30ka support fund.
Visit our Fund web page at:
http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~dima/benjamin/30-ka/fund/

With one more donation we have 1125$.

> Vadim Kagansky 100
> Alexandr Davidovich 100
> Simon Klebanov 50
> Yura Koblents-Mishke 50
> Anonymous 50
> Ilia Denisov 70
> Michael Chepovetsky 100
> Yuri Gusev 50
> Boris Gisin 100
> Alex Ginsburg 100
> Inna Megretskaia 50
> Igor Borukhin 100
> Constantin Asinovski 50
> Bair Budaev 30
> Vadim Sokolovsky 100
> Elena Ginsburg 25
> ------------------------------
> Total 1,125

I'm keeping you updated. I got another 2 donations. So now we have
Vadim Kagansky 100
Alexandr Davidovich 100
Simon Klebanov 50
Yura Koblents-Mishke 50
Anonymous 50
Ilia Denisov 70
Michael Chepovetsky 100
Yuri Gusev 50
Boris Gisin 100
Alex Ginsburg 100
Inna Megretskaia 50
Igor Borukhin 100
Constantin Asinovski 50
Bair Budaev 30
Vadim Sokolovsky 100
------------------------------
Total 1,100

We may have one more donation of about 70$. We need to find out 
whether the person is in the US.
Thus, for certainty we need only another 100$ (counting the 
Israeli). And it looks practically certain that the younger 
generation will go to the Olimpiada.

Hello folks,

We (30-niki from 1970 1,3,5) had a reunion at 100 anniversary day 
but did not satisfied because of too low membership. We deside to 
improve it at December,13 in Spb. Taisia Ivanovna Koursish is invited.
Please help to gather us : e-mails,phones, ..., etc.

from Russia with love,
Michael Bolotovsky (1970,3)

I'm keeping you updated. I got another 2 donations. So now we have
Vadim Kagansky 100
Alexandr Davidovich 100
Simon Klebanov 50
Yura Koblents-Mishke 50
Anonymous 50
Ilia Denisov 70
Michael Chepovetsky 100
Yuri Gusev 50
------------------------------
Total 570

Even though we are already above the target of 850$ (together with the 
Israeli) we are still 670$ short of the entire sum.
If anybody is uncomfortable with a donation smaller than 50$ NO donation 
is too small. 5-10-25 $ will also help.

P.S. So pleasent to see that not all idealists matured into "materialists" :)

Impressiones 
from meeting at school are very mixed
the best key point of concerto was trio:
M.L.Shifman V.I.Ilyin ( we new him under nickname 'Boroda' 
but I am not sure if that one persisted over generations
and Eliashevich-senior singing from the stage about the school
using the melody "U neznakomogo poselka"
the worst was of course fiestfighting in the hall
anyway

requets anybody who nows G S Klimovotskaya e-mail address
please let me know for her ex students
yours eugene

I was so glad to see you, G.S., in the pics of picnic in USA!
You remain the same as I remember you.
I hope, you remember as me as your marks of my works - Sometime
the best in the class :-))).
Thank you. Sasha.

Guys and girls :), as of now, Sunday evening, it looks 
as follows:

Vadim Kagansky          100
Alexandr Davidovich     100
Simon Klebanov           50
Yura Koblents-Mishke     50
Anonymous                50
Ilia Denisov             70
------------------------------
Total                   420

It's a bit better than our Israeli school mates, but...
Anyway, I'm waiting to hear from some people tomorrow and 
I believe that I have to inform Lotvinov by tomorrow evening 
our time (he changed it a bit). 

SHURA
1. MENYA NA VSTRECHE V SKOLE LICHNO PROSILA KURSISH'
NAYTI DEN'GI DLYA POEZDKI V DANYU.
2. OBZHUYU SUMMU TY VIDEL NA WEBE
3. U MENYA EST' ORIGINAL'NIE DOCUMENTI, PODTVERZDAYZHIE SUMMU - INVOICE.

4. FIRMA, KOTORAY PRODAET BILETY - MOI KLIENT V MOEM BANKE I
5. CHTO JA HOCHU?
    JA DUMAYU CHTO M.B. KTO TO IZ VAS (EMIGRANTOV) VDRUG ZAHOCHET
POMOCH'.
    JA UVEREN, CHTO MI SMOZEM NAITY VIHOD - LIBO NAYDEM DEN'GI, LIBO
JA DOGOVOR'YUS' S FIRMOY O DISCONTE.

VOT MY PLAN:

1. JA DOLZEN ZNAT' SUMMU IN USD I SROK K KOTOROMU VOZMOZHEN PEREVOD
DENEG IN SPB, VSE RAVNO KAK.
2. NE VAZHNO KAKOJ ETO BUDET SROK, DO ILI POSLE 30/10/97
GLAVNOE  - TOCHNOST'.
3. JA SMOGU NAYTI DEN'GI NA LUBOY SROK I RASCHITAT'SYA S FIRMOY,
KOTORAYA PRODAET BILETY SKOLE PRI USLOVII CHTO BUDET VASHE PODTVERZDENIE
(YOURS AGREE).
4. VOPROS O TOY RAZNICHE, KOTORAYA POVIDIMOMU VOZNIKNET
MEZDU  SUMMOY ( PLADGE), SOBRANNOY U VAS I NEOBHODIMOY SUMMOY.
JA DOLZHEN BUDU KAK-TO NAJTI ETU RAZNICHU I LIBO VOZMESTIT' EE , LIBO
POLUCHIT' NA NEE DISKONT U FIRMI.

ITOG:
DO 27/10/97 DO 23:00 MOSCOW TIMES JA ZDU VASHEGO RESHENIYA
PERSONAL'NO OT KAZDOGO, LIBO OT COORDINATORA
SUMMA? (FOR EXP: USD1125)
SROK? ( 01/01/98 )
ESLI BUDET HOTYA BI POLOVINA SUMMU, TO SCHITAYU CHTO IDEYA SRABOTALA.
JA 28/10/97 RAZGOVARIVAYU S FIRMOY I SOOBZHAYU VAM
REZUL'TAT PEREGOVOROV.
ZATEM MI V SPB PLATIM TOTAL SUMM USD1700,
I UCHENIKI SPOKOYNO EDUT.

KSTATI, POYAVILIS' VOPROSI -
NE EDET LI KTO TO IZ MOIH RODSTVENNIKOV?
SOOBZHAYU, NI MOJA ZHENA - UCHITEL' 30 -KA, NI MOY SON - UCHENIK TOY ZHE
SCOLI NE EDUT.

POSLEDNEE
ESLI MI VSE ZE SMOZEM SOBRAT' MONEY,  KAK IH PEREVESTI?
-GLAVNOE SOBRAT' SUMMU U VAS NA ZAPADE.
- PEREDAT' V SPB MONEY NE PROBLEMA.
A IMENNO : KAK TI ZNAESH' JA VSE EZHO RABOTAYU V BANKE I IMEYU
MALEN'KOE PREDSTAVLENIE SKOL'KO STOIT MONEY TRANSFER IZ USA V SPB

POLNAYA FEE ZA PEREVOD SOSTOIT IZ TREH CHASTEY:
FEE V AMER ILI ISRAEL BANK PLUS FEE BANKOV CORRESPONDENTOV PLUS
FEE V RUSSIAN BANKE.
AMER (ISRAEL) BANK - 20-25 USD
CORR BANK - 5-8 USD
RUSSIAN BANK - 0,1% OT SUMMU NO NE MENEE 20 I NE BOLEE 200USD
ITOGO NA 1000USD - 50 USD
NO PRI  ZACHISLENII NA MOY LICHNIY SCHET V MOYOM (MY) BANKE
S MENYA NE VOZMUT FEE, T.K. JA SOTRUDNIK (STAFF) BANKA
V NASHEM SLUCHAE TOTAL FEE - 30USD I NE KAKOGO GEMORROYA,

FOR INFO
MY ADDRESS:
RUSSIA, SPB, NALICHAYA STR, 55/139
PER.  E- MAIL: lotvinov@infopro.spb.su
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LOTVINOV EUGENE AND MARINA.

Senia is right.  At first, we must know the possible 
amount (before October 29, in Russia it will be 
October 30).  

Probably, somebody wants to contribute, but does 
not want to publish his/her pledge in Web site.  
I think it is enough to send e-mail to Senia.

Guys, I believe that time is important and not to waste it I 
suggest myself to send cheques to. If you do mind me as a 
treasurer my whereabouts are

Simon Klebanov
P.O.Box 599
Bar Harbor, ME 04609

Make your pledges by Oct 28 or so. Then people in Russia 
will have time to decide whether they will go and need 
this money (if it is not the total amount). If they say 
yes (by Oct 30) then send your cheques to me. 

Arond Oct 12-14 I'll have all cheques cleared and we'll decide then how to transfer the money.

My pledge is 50$.

Senia

I'll keep you updated about pledges.

Dear friends,

As a coordinator of the Israeli 30ka support fund "Keren-30" I'd 
like to inform you that I think to send 500 USD, if this 
amount would be approved by most of participants of the Fund.
(I hope we won't have any disagreements from israeli 30niks.)
If it would be possible we are going to pass this money before 
Oct 30, but we doubt that it could be realizeable. 
If the way which was suggested by Vadim Kagansky (see previouse 
messages on BB: to send the sum after Oct 30) is good for school 
team, we will be able to pass the money on November 3-5.
I am still waiting from Eugene Lotvinov any response on my 
message which I sent him yesterday.

In this opportunity, I congratulate all of 30niks (teachers,
pupils and graduates) on 30ka millenium anniversary on behalf 
of all israeli graduates.

Best wishes,
Eli Kislyuk, coordinator
"Keren-30", the Israeli 30ka support fund.

Actually, I would like somebody else to try the "collector's" role.
Vadim, why not you? Seriously.
In any case, I'll send $100 immediately after the "collector"
is announced.

Best regards,
Sasha.

I have received e-mails from Bair Budaev, Yura Koblents-Mishke and Senia
Klebanov with additional information and some ideas.   To summarize:
1. The cost of each  banking transaction is, at least, $25.00 (in some 
banks it may be up to $50) plus ~2% of the amount, so it  makes no sense 
to send less than $500 at a time.
2.  There is no chance to receive money in Petersburg before October 30.
3.  Probably, participants themselves or sponsors may find the necessary 
amount in Petersburg to pay on time and we'll refund this money in some weeks.  
In this case we must  estimate the amount we can send and inform Lotvinov 
(unfortunately, his e-mail does not respond but, I hope, it is possible to 
see this Web side in Petersburg), teachers and participants.  They'll decide 
if it is O.K. and may they pay the rest if we'll be able to collect not $1700 
but, for example, $1200 or $1400.  
We'll need  to select a coordinator who'll collect and send money (it would be 
nice if Davidovich agrees). 

I think this way may be acceptable for participant.  $1700 is still a big money 
in Russia but now it is not a fantastic amount. I believe, the parents of each 
student may find $300-500 for a month if they know for sure that we refund 
this money.

Now let's estimate the amount we can collect.  Personally I promise to send a 
check for $100 as soon as we'll come to some decision.

We have some time to figure out the best and fastest way for transfer  It would 
be nice if somebody is going to visit Russia and agrees to take money (for the 
case, please, respond personally to the coordinator when we'll find him/her).

I completely agree with the previous article. Now we should 
send our pledges to Lotvinov (though I had problems with his 
e-mail). Then he'll have an idea about the amount and the rest 
will have to be fetched by the participants themselves (in fact 
they'll pay first and we'll reimburse them the amount we pledge). 

If it is fine with the students and teachers let us know and 
we'll send our pledges. Then we'll have to identify a person
who'll gather all cheques and will transfer the money (say, 
within a month).

Senia

Vadim is right.

For a wire transfer abroad US banks normaly charge 
about $25 which does not depend on sending amount.
Russian Banks charge about 1.5--2.5% from the received 
ammount. The last fee is probably reasonable and not 
avoidable, but $25/per person may have a significant 
part of personal contributions.

The best what I see is to find something like a short term 
loan in Spb and then pay it off using a single transfer of 
collected money.

 

Probably Eugene does not know but banks charge money
for every transaction.  Recently my bank charged $9 for
receiving $100 from Canada. Amount doesn't matter, its just a 
fee for their services.  I think they also charge for sending
money and I am sure that Russian banks charge much more.  

I believe, there are enough people who are ready
to send $50-100 to our scholl as we did some months ago
but nobody wants that 50% of this money may be lost.  

The only reasonable way is to collect checks and transfer
maney at once (as A. Davidovich did it) but there is not 
enough time untill October 30 (probably, even today is too
late - it looks like money must pass through, at least, 
3 banks, incluning 2 in Russia)

Any idea?  

Bank recvizit for scooll's help

acc. of UNEXIM BANK, MOSCOW, RUSSIA 890-0060-921
WITH BANK OF NEW-YORK, NEW-YORK, USA
IN FAVOUR OF BALTUNEXIM BANK, SAINT-PETERSBURG, RUSSIA,
ACC. 081030504USD 
FOR MR. LOTVINOV,ACC. 07060205

BIBI FRDS
LOTVINOV EUGENE

Urgent
Vsem vipusknikam!
Ochen' nuzhno pomoch' rodnoy school
Ot Sankt-Peterburga priglashena komanda iz 4-h uchenikov i 2-h 
uchiteley 30-ki na olimpiadu po matematike "Baltik way" 
v Danmark (Kopengagen)
money nuzhno platit' 30/10/97
amount: tickets - 1.580.000RUR*6=1.650USD
visa:  130.000RUR*2=50USD
Total: 1.700USD
Otkliknetes' pomogite eto ze ne summa dlya vseh
I help with conver USD in RUR and ticket and visa 
in Sankt-Peterburg
Zavtra dam rekviziti in Russian Bank for currency account .

I would like to thank Yuriy Gusev (1975, 5) for
providing the photographs of the recent N.Y.
reunion, and to invite everybody to enjoy them
at http://www.math.umd.edu/~bak/30/photo/Fall97/reunion97.html

Boris

Hallo Friends
We are going to film this event (meeting at school on Thursday)
by professional cameraman
The cost of the process is $250
The cost of NTSE VHS cassete $15
Any supporters e-mail to eugene@gs.ru
yours         Eugene

Subject: meeting in School

Dly vypusnicov do 1980 vklychitel'no vstrecha sostoitsy
21/10/97 at 15:00 in school
posle 1980 - 23/10/97 v 16:00

Hi everybody!

What happened to me must be a famous jewish luck.  After 
spending a couple of weeks in S.Peterburg I finally came 
back to find out the reunion had taken place.  There is
one thing left for me - to hope this one wasn't the last
one.

However I had a reunion with my classmates on September 16,
and Shifman was present by the way.  We talked a lot about  
the school and teachers and life itself.  He is sending one
more big "thank you" for 30-ka support.  They've decided to 
use the money to replace recently stolen computers.

To those who might be interested: my e-mail address and work
phone are going to be changed to unknown starting October 11.
I'll send the updates as soon as they become known.  My home
number's still the same - (703) 787-8671.

Marina

A short while ago, on September 20, there was a class reunion of
School 38 '76 A, which was attended by A.R.Maizelis. Aron Ruvimovich
is in good shape, he still teaches a few hours a week at school.
Of course, he still remembers each and all of us, our spouses,
children (where applicable), etc, including guild numbers :)

You are welcome to download his picture taken at the party from
http://www.tiac.net/users/liber/arm.tif. As of the 20-th, he
already had an e-mail address, but was not connected yet. Now, I
believe, he should be a netizen with limited rights (e-mail only).
His address: arm@maizelis.spb.su. I think he would prefer to
receive mail in transliterated Russian.

Dear fellow graduates and post and past graduates
Recently CHAS PICK (Rush hour) St-P.weekly newspapar 
published half page art+photos about coming event.
Text was so bad. The only person I could distingwish 
was Elvira Vassilievna (poor dear!) After the quality of pics
(far away from INternet) I would consider her job as very 
exhausting. The other were a couple of new (for me) faces
No M.L. SHIFMAN No V.ILYIN NO I.Yu Bazhenova, ... name it!
Tere ware mentioned a couple of phone numbers to call
regarding tickets for celebration
Those who know details please send me a line or two
Eugene  

On 18th of Octouber all people will selebrate 100 years of 30 school!
Join to us! Common evrybody!

I would like to join Yury Gusev in saying "Thanks" to people who 
organized our reunion.  Everything was great!  But, please, let 
do it on Saturday next time.  Galina

Subject: Re: picnic follow-up - "dvortsoviy" zagovor udalsya!

Dear Victor,

I would like to thank you personally as well as other
organizers from "Dvortsov's clan",  and special thanks also to
Jenya Baron  for that great opportunity to meet our fellows 30-dnikov.
I enjoyed  company of people from many generations of 30-dka
and could not stop wondering on how that special breed of spirit
has persisted from as early as 1960s to 1990s. 
Location was beutiful, weather - perfect, and I felt sorry that I had to
leave earlier - a best evidence of success of this improvized reunion. 
I hope that we will keep in touch - people who met at Sunwood!

Victor, I afraid, that it's not over for you yet ;-}
It would be great if you could provide us with statistics of
this meeting, you know - years and names or something like this.
I am going to print photos and scan them to place on a website.

Best Regards.
Yuriy Gusev (1975,5) 

Subject: picnic follow-up

Just wanted to thank everyone who didn't chicken out because
of the long trip and gloomy weather forecasts and came for
the yesterday's reunion, all the way from the wilderness of 
Baltimore, Kennenbunkport and other remote locations on-
and off- the East Shore (lazy Californians who didn't bother
to book a flight, shame on you!) Hope the event was worth the 
long trip. Indeed, how could it possibly be otherwise, if the 
food was delicious (again, thanks to everyone who cooked and/or
brought the supplies, sooner or later); drinks, conversations 
and outfits exquisite, gentlemen dandy, ladies beautiful; the 
ocean warm, the weather sunny, and the organisation perfect (sic!).

Special praise to the guest-of-honor, Galina Semenovna 
Klimovitskaya, who was the center of attention for the
whole afternoon.

And, to my personal opinion, we were more than just a bunch
of russian-speaking people having a couple of BEARs ; despite 
the differences in age, profession, gender and marital status, 
we do share more than just the native language.    

Hope the Sunwood get-together will not be the last, and may be
we can even make such events more or less annual (or even seasonal,
who knows?) 

        - Victor

I would like to join you guys.

Grisha Pelts

OK, finaly, fuh... Nas budet helovek 30-35 +gosti. Vrode vse 
organizovano, soglasovano, utverzdenodogovoreno, naznaheno,..... .
Vstrehaemsy v Sunwood v 12:00 v eto Voskresenie (21/9) 
- RAIN OR SHINE - V LUBUU POGODU. V maloveroytnom sluhae dozdia
v 12:30 mi poedim na campus Stoney Brook (10 min by car) Univera k Victoru, gde est'
pomewenie, luzajka, kriwa i t.d. I ostavim na dveri tualeta directions dly 
opozdavwix.

Is uhitelej obewala bit' Galina Semenovna Klimovitskay.

Do vstrehi
Zhenia

Enclosed is an updated list with the items that people have 
volunteered  to bring sofar, both food and non-food.
Those who don't have an assignment yet, please contact people,
who need help.

Let me know if you have problems, bringing stuff or you are not on the list




1. Dymkova Galina          (Boston) = Available to help
Galina_Dymkova@cayennesoft.com

2. Kaplun Alexander        (New York)     akaplun@fir.fbc.com  NO
3. Levin Dmitri            (Philadelphia) Dmitri_Levin@GMACM.COM 
4. Julia                   (Boston)       juliasv@juno.com  PLATES, CUPS,,,

5. Katsman Igor    (89,5)                 ikatsman@usa.net
6. Palace Galina           (Baltimore)    gpalace@issinet.com 
7. Borukhin Eric   (75,4)
8. Ginzburg Elena          (New Jersey)   GINZBURG@PBWORLD.COM 
9. Pliner Vadim    (73,7)  (New York)     VP1695@aol.com VOLLEYBAL, VEGETABLES, FRUTS - NEEDS HELP

10. Krol Boria    (NJ)  krolb@pfizer.com BBQ, GREELS, COAL. NEEDS HELP

11. Koblents Yura   (68,1)                 
yura@concentric.net 
12. Timofeyev Ilya          (Troy, NY)     timofi@rpi.edu

13. Usviat Vova         (New York)     pma@cris.com  NO 
14. Fromzel Leonia          (New York) ZAKUSKA FROM RUSSIAN STORE, KAYK, GITARA, STOVE
15. Deych Anna              (Philadelphia) 
16. Lyubich Lilya   (77,4)  (Stony Brook) 
17. Baron Eugene            (New York) ORGANIZER, FLAVORED VODKA
18. Dvortsova Raya  (71,3)  (New London, CT) 
19. Roginsky Roman  (66,1)  (New London, CT)
20. Dvortsov Victor (77,4)  (Stony Brook)  vdvor@dombai.uars.sunysb.edu ORGANIZER
21. Shihanova Nina  (73,7) (New York)
22. Alexander Esterkin (73,2) (Massachusetts) ?? 
23. Lifshitz Zhenia (73,2) (New York) ??
24. Brin Boris      (73,2) (NJ) ??
25. Bomash Zhenia   (76,1) (CT)
26. Bomash Grisha   (76,1)
27. Kogan Masha            (NY)
28. Boris Shrayer  (87) (ny) VINO, VODKA 
29. IVAN  --  ELIA@emcore.com  BEAR, BBQ GRILL

If you have access to interactive maps, try to locate 101 Mount
Grey Rd., East Setauket, NY 11733, the house of Leon Tavitian;
it's next door to Sunwood and for some reason the map I use
(http://www.mapquest.com/) lists it as an attraction.

Anyway, here are the directions:

Take Rt. 495, LIE (Long Island Expressway) East to Exit 62, Stony
Brook (when on the ramp, follow the signs to Stony Brook). This 
manoeuvre will put you on Nicolls Rt (Rt. 97) North. Go all the
way down the Nicolls Rd. till it ends at the T-junction with 
Rt. 25A (approx. 9-10 miles. For your orientation: there'll be two
major intersections of Nicolls Rd. with Rt. 25 (go straight there; 
you need 25A!) and with Rt. 347. Just where the Nicolls Rd.
ends, you'll pass the streetlight (Northern entrance to the
University) and then go under the railroad bridge).

Now: make left from Nicolls Rd. to Rt. 25A and then right to Quaker 
Path at the first streetlight (you'll only have to go for about
1000 feet on 25A). After 2 or 3 stop signs (~1 mile) the road
forks; keep to the left, you need to switch to the Mount Grey Rd.
(there'll be a sign showing which way to go for the Quaker Path 
and for the Mount Grey).

Once on the Mount Grey Rd., you're close. Go through the stop
sign (intersection with the West Meadow Rd.), and start looking
to your left; Sunwood is about 1000 feet from there;- a red brick 
gate and a sign. Make left into the gate, and go all the way down
the lane. There'll be a small parking lot to your right at the
end. Park your car, and take a path to the left from the lane, 
towards a little building of exotic design which hosts a WC;
towards the merry voices and the smells of food. 

The official opening ceremony will start at noon.

See you there!

        - Victor

 

Dear friends, 30ka alumni,

I am glad to inform you account numbers and adress of russian 
30ka support fund.

Fond blagotvoritel'noj pomochshi fiziko-matematicheskoj
gimnazii N 30 g. S.Petersburga "Tridcatka"

       Address: Shevchenko, 23, korp.2, St.Petersburg, 199406, Russia,
                            tel/fax +7 (812) 217 2157
For russian rubles:

     R/sch. 200700738 Cerkovnyj filial AB "Petrovskij" k/sch. 800161609,
     s/sch. 200890800, INN 7801091676, MFO 044030809

For counting in USA dollars:

     BAKERS TRUST COMPANY, New York (CHIPS UID 321324) the
     account of Commercial Bank "PETROVSKIY", St.-Petersburg
     No 04-096-265, in favour CHURCH Branch, in favour Shevchenko,
     23, korp.2, St.-Petersburg, 199406 Russia, Charity foundation
     for Physical and Mathematical School No. 30, No 070001624

     BANK OF NEW YORK, New York, the account of Commercial Bank
     "PETROVSKIY", St.-Petersburg No 8900086718, in favour CHURCH
     Branch, in favour Shevchenko, 23, korp.2, St.-Petersburg,
     199406 Russia, Charity foundation  for Physical and Mathematical
     School No. 30, No 070001624

     REPUBLIC NATIONAL BANK OF NEW YORK, New York, the account
     of Commercial Bank "PETROVSKIY", St.-Petersburg No 608 211 192,
     in favour CHURCH Branch, in favour Shevchenko, 23, korp.2,
     St.-Petersburg, 199406 Russia, Charity foundation  for Physical
     and Mathematical School No. 30, No 070001624



Best regards,
Masha Abramova, (1981,7), St.Peterburg

By popular demand, here is the list of people who are definitely 
coming for the Sunwood picnic (last updated 9/12/97):

 1. Dymkova Galina          (Boston)      
Galina_Dymkova@cayennesoft.com   
 2. Kaplun Alexander        (New York)     akaplun@fir.fbc.com
 3. Levin Dmitri            (Philadelphia) Dmitri_Levin@GMACM.COM
 4. Julia                   (Boston)       juliasv@juno.com
 5. Katsman Igor    (89,5)                 ikatsman@usa.net 
 6. Palace Galina           (Baltimore)    gpalace@issinet.com
 7. Borukhin Eric   (75,4)              
 8. Ginzburg Elena          (New Jersey)   GINZBURG@PBWORLD.COM
 9. Pliner Vadim    (73,7)  (New York)     VP1695@aol.com   
10. Krol Boria              (New Jersey?)  krolb@pfizer.com
11. Koblents Yura   (68,1)                 yura@concentric.net
12. Timofeyev Ilya          (Troy, NY)     timofi@rpi.edu
13. Usviat Vova             (New York)     pma@cris.com 
14. Fromzel Leonia          (New York)     
15. Deych Anna              (Philadelphia) 
16. Lyubich Lilya   (77,4)  (Stony Brook) 
17. Baron Eugene            (New York)
18. Dvortsova Raya  (71,3)  (New London, CT)
19. Roginsky Roman  (66,1)  (New London, CT) 
20. Dvortsov Victor (77,4)  (Stony Brook)  vdvor@dombai.uars.sunysb.edu 

Please let me know if any of the above info is incorrect.

I'll post the directions to Sunwood at the beginning of next week. 

        - Victor

Check out great article about Vladimir Iljin in St.Peterburg Vedomosti:


http://www.dux.ru/koi8/enpp/newspapers/spbved/arts/spbved-1598-art-42.html

Thanks,
Vladimir

Here is the summary:

Q. How do we get to Sunwood, Stony Brook?
A. I'll post the directions later. For those who can't
drive, there are two options:
a. Take train (LIRR) from Penn Sta to Stony Brook (Port
Jefferson branch); we'll shuttle to Sunwood from the
platform (it's about 4 miles).
b. We can arrange carpools from the city. NYC car owners,
please volunteer; give me your name/phone so I can make
it public.  

Q. Why Sunday, not Saturday?
A. For Saturday, Sunwood is already reserved by another 
group. 

Q. Why picnic, not restaurant?
A. The majority voted for picnic. To my opinion, it's
much more relaxed and entertaining form of gathering
than just a dinner in the restaurant, and it makes it
easier to communicate with different people. And,
Sunwood IS a GREAT PLACE, believe me.

If you have any other questions/comments, please let
us know.

	- Victor, Zhenia

Hi everyone.

Here is the plan: 

* Date:   Sunday, September 21
* Place:  Sunwood, Stony Brook (~1 hr drive from NYC)
* Ticket price: about $15 per person, including food.

Some background/advertisement: Sunwood is a huge estate
(or rather a small park) on the Long Island Sound beach 
donated to the University by some wealthy philanthropist. 
University doesn't have money to maintain it in a proper
order, so it looks a bit like Pushkin or Pavlovsk parks
after the war, before they've been restored. It does have
proper bathroom facilities though, for which the remains
of the burned villa were used. In the 'developed' part of
the park, there is a place for a bbq with a couple of tables, 
a nice lawn for volleyball, and a beach at our disposal 
(pebbles, not sand; sorry). All that we can rent for a 
symbolic price of $40 per hour. 

Please send email to me or Zhenia Baron (barone@pfizer.com)
if you plan to come, or call me 516-654-8663 (h), 
516-632-8228 (o), or Zhenia 212-733-5604.

Now: we need your help to make it happen.

1. Does anyone have camping stoves (Coleman or similar)?
2. A big bbq grill (and a large car to bring it over)?
3. Pots and bowls to cook/serve food
4. Music instruments 
5. Sports gear (volleyballs, net, badmingtone, etc.)
6. Any other ideas for entertainment?

We also need volunteer(s) to coordinate food. As we envision
the arrangements, everyone will either bring eatables or cook 
on the spot (shashl%k, etc.) Zhenia has volunteered to buy
alcohole except beer (anyone wants to take care of beer?)
We need someone else to buy paper dishes and plastic silver 
+ cups, garbage bags, etc. 

Important: because it's outdoors, we depend on the weather. 
So, the plan is to stay put till say Thursday, and if the 
forecast is very pessimistic, then switch to the restaurant 
Saturday night.

Please respond asap; there isn't much time left till 21-st.

	- Victor

How about Long Island beaches for reunion meeting?
I know that Lido beach, for example, has really good 
picknicking stuffs including barbeque .. .
It is close to NYC too.

Hi, folks,
have you heard anything from 121 phys-math? If you happen
to know anyone, who already asked or was trying to set up a Web
site, please pass me a word.
Best regards,
Serge Ioffe

Hello, people!

This July, I traveled to Piter and visited Aron Ruvimovich
Maizelis twice (one time with Kostya Asinovsky, the other with
Valya Palshin). This is a small report on the visit. 

I knew about his illness and was worried to find him in a bad
shape. Turns out, to my surprise, that he hadn't almost changed
since the time I graduated (1989). Apparently, he recovered from
his illness except that he speaks a little more slowly. Recently,
he learned how to use a computer (he has a 386 or 486 at home),
and he is quite proficient with Norton commander, lexicon and
such like. He is energetic as always and remembers all his
students; he was telling us a lot of stories about students that
graduated as early as in the 60th. 

It seems that he is contemplating writing a book and is at the
preliminary stage of gathering material, but that's just a
speculation. Also, he wrote a 16 page article for the upcoming
journal dedicated to the school anniversary. The article is about
his teaching techniques. Although, he doesn't have an Internet
access, he knows about our bulletin board and has the list of all
participants. I asked him to write a message for the list, and he
did that. I enclose the transliterated version below; I retained
the original spelling where I could.

ML

PS/1. Sorry, for delaying posting this message for so long, but
it's been a really crazy 6 weeks for me with all that moving from
SPb to Chicago to Hartford to Chicago to Bloomington to Chicago to
Hartford to Chicago to Rockford to Chicago to Bloomington to
Chicago and finally back to Bloomington. How's that?

===================================

Sankt-Peterburg.            15.07.97.

Zdrastvuite vse! Vpervye ua pol'zuyus' sluchaem: mne moy uchenik
Misha Levin obeschal rasprostranit' etot tekst cherez Enternet,
perevedya ego na angliyskiy. Delo v tom, chto v shkole ya izuchal
nemeckiy, a v Universitete - francuzskiy. Na starshem kurse my
hoteli izuchit' esche i angliiskiy i dazhe prouchilis' odin ili
dva uroka, no administraciya zapretila dal'neyshie zanyatiya. Tak
i ostalsya ya kalekoy. Seychas bez angliyskogo ochen' ploxo. I
esli physicheskuyu xvor' ya kak-to odolevayu, xotya by s
pomoschyu togo zhe computera, i, kak lyublyu govorit', na nem moy
pocherk namnogo luchshe, chem u bol'noy ruki, to s angliyskim u
menya, mozhno skazat', nikak.

Shkola zhivet buduschem yubileem. Osen'yu, 19 oktyabra, gimnaziya
prazdnuet stoletie svoego rozhdeniya. Ostavim v storone
primazyvanie k pushkinskoy date: zdanie ne to i gimnaziya ne
takaya. No vysshee nachal'stvo tozhe "ucepilos'", i krome togo
nashli sponsorov. Poetomu budut izdavat' sbornik. Menya
"podbili", i ya napisal stat'yu iz svoego opyta. Kak zdes'
govoryat, ya esche "chainik", no stat'yu posle mnogix ispravlrniy
vse-taki napisal. Ne znayu, uspeet li poslednyaya redakciya. Vo
vsyakom sluchae ya mnogo focusov s computerom uznal. Kak ya
ponyal, sbornik (esli on vyidet) dolzhen soderzhat' dve chasti:
istoricheskuyu i metodicheskuyu. Sostavitel' pervoy chasti,
uchitel' istorii V.I. Korotkevich, skazal mne, chto oni ne
"Ivany, ne pomnyaschie rodstva", poetomu chast' istorii budet
posvyaschena 38-y shkole.

Zadacha dlya zhelayuschix sostoit v napisanie zametok, a, mozhet
byt', i statey v lyubuyu chast' sbornika. A mozhet i sozdat'
tret'yu chast' sbornika: chto dala shkola, kak ya prodvinulsya v
nauke, kak uspel v zhizni, kak vospital detey ili malo li o chem.

V konce koncov my, uchitelya, suschestvuem dlya vas, a ne vy dlya
nas.

                 Vsegda vash A.R. Maizelis.

Dear fellow 30 -niki and -nitsi
My cordeal greeeting in connection with September 1st
and let me remind you about coming Teachers Day (October 5)
and 30-school 'millenium' schceduled on October 19.

               Dear USA alumni esp from N.Y.city area.
I still was unabke to find Michael Bir (Fainblat) 1980-7
Maybe somebody with powerful search engine or some connections
in immigration office could help?
Eugene

Boria Krol i y prosmotreli i obzvonili campgrounds vokrug NY i poluhaetsy
hto blizajwie private campgrounds, gde mozno pit' alkogol' naxodytsy
po krajnej mere v 1.5 hasax esdi ot goroda. Esli kto-nibud' znaet 
picknik ground gde mozno pit' alkogol'... let me know asap.

No y ne dumau... => Alternativnij i prostoj standartnij variam - 
v restorane. Predlagaetsy restoran Monte Carlo (bivsh. Ukraina) - 
na Brightone tam za $30+tx+tip vpolne prilihnij banket s vodkoj i kuhej zratvi.
t.o. real'no mi za v $40-$45 s nosa ulozimsy. Y ne bolsoj specialist
po russkim resoranam = > esli kto znaet hto-to luhshe ... let me know asap.

I ewe mi reshili, hto esli k 12/9 (za nedelu) y ne poluhu xoty bi
20 podtverzdenij po tel (212-733-5604) ili e-mail, to mi prosto "zabivaem 
na etu ideu gvozd'" i nihego ne ustraivaem => RSVP! now!

Vsem privet - nadeus' do vstrehi... 
Zhenia


RSVP

Dear fellow 30 school list members!

I've gotten two valuable ideas from Eli Kislyuk (1981, 7). 

The first one is to add the "date of last update" field to each 
record. This will be done from now on. So you'll have to send
updates from time to time to avoid looking relict.

The second one I do not care much about, but I've implemented it
all the same: the birthday field. It is now there, so everyone
who wants to make his or her birth date public domain is 
welcome to. I only ask that due to technological reasons, 
please enter your whole record as you want it to appear in the 
list, not just name and birth date.

Sincerely, Boris Kozintsev

I. Greben'wikov i Strizov budut segodny veherom 8/15 v NYC
at Wet Lands bar @ 161 Hudson (2 blocks south of Canal St.)
BG budet pet' poslednij albom, govoryt kruto.
Vsem privet
Prixodite

II.  Podgotovka k sletu prodvigaetsy. Predvaritelno mi (s bolwinstvom
pozvonivhex mne) spavlyt' reunion 20/9 na prirode - v campgrounde
s kupaniem i gde razrewaut Alcogol' v radiuse ne bol'we 100mi ot NYC
Use est' parohka c/g na primete na Long Islande i Hudson Valley. Mi 
ob'yvim detali v tehenie sled. nedeli. 
Na vopros s sem'ymi ili bez mi rewili, hto predpohtilno bes semej
(po-vosmoznosti) - vsetaki eto school reunion, no konehno za esli
otsutsvie spruga/i predstavlyet problemi to priezzajte vmeste - bez voprosov.

Hi,
I received the same message that was received by Ludmila Azimov (1983,3). 
It means somebody use 30/38 maillist to send a commercial( at least
partly) information. I mislike to be linked with some "Quality 
engineering web site".
Sergej

Hi!
Today I've gotten a following message. Well, if it helps 
anybody I'll be very glad but have to say that I am very
disturbed by the fact that my name got linked without my
consent to whatever site (and I have not a slightest idea
about what quality engineering is about). Any ideas about 
how it could happen and how to get de-linked? Unfortunately,
about a year ago my mailbox was overflooded with various
commercial ads with my address picked from the 30-ka list.
Luda
-----------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 09:10:18 -0400
From: lmc@dmc10.com
To: asimov@cc.huji.ac.il
Subject: Quality Engineering

Please excuse the intrusion. Your name was linked to a quality
engineering web site and I was hoping you could help me out.

I'm looking to hire a degreed engineer with Quality Engineering
experience in high volume manufacturing environment. Must know
SPC, ISO's or equivalent. We will pay for move to North Carolina,
compensation ranges to $60,000 (that buys a lot of stuff in NC)
very stable company with well planned growth history. 
Excellent benefits and retirement program.

If you know anyone, I can be reached at:
Voice (609) 584-9000ext216
Fax: (609) 584-9575
Email: lmc@dmc10.com

Thanks,    Larry Chiaravallo

Last Friday, August 8, in the afternoon about 60 graduates of
38/30 School, graduated from 1966 to 1995, with their families,
took part in the very first joined picnic, which was organized
in Israel by efforts of "Keren 30" - young but not unknown
fund in support of the School, its teachers, pupils and graduates.

Our meeting took place in Khurshat Limor, southern to Haifa.
Israeli graduates, two former School teachers, a graduate from
St.Petersburg and a graduate from Moscow, who become aware of
the meeting only a day before and came especially for this event,
have participated. Good mood, as well as good weather, accompanied
us during the picnic. One of the exciting moments were to watch the
people who didn't meet for 10, 20 or even 30 years!

Participants were given a possibility to check their data in
Israeli graduates' list, look for former classmates in the
Internet database and join it if they do not appear.

Up-to-date activities of "Keren 30" were presented by the Fund
coordinator and more donations were received. We have also
exchanged several ideas regarding the future.

Some features of graduates' club or association, which will be
established in conjunction or instead of the Fund, were outlined,
and we started to learn formal requirements for such a structure.
Number of people who agreed to help the coordinator with further
activities rose to five.

It was agreed that we shall continue with those events. Another
meeting, probably of different kind, is about to take place
within a few months, maybe in Sukkot holydays (mid-October).

You can find more details, names and pictures on the web page
of "Keren 30" at http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~dima/benjamin/30-ka/fund/


Eli Kislyuk,
Benjamin Dysin

Odnokashniki! Proshu pomoschi.
B.N. Lazarev, vipusknik 38 shkoly 1967 goda obraschaetsya k vam s 
pros'boy pomoch naity horoshuyu rabotu za rubezhom moemu sinu 
Alexandru, 1973 goda rozhdenia, vipuskniku 30 shkoly, zatem Politeha po 
special'nosti "Systemnoye programmirovaniye". Paren' neskol'ko let rabotal 
programmistom v krupnoy firme, torguyuschei nedvizhimost'u, v tom 
chisle esche buduchi studentom. Delal tam diplomnuyu rabotu po programmnym 
sredstvam obsluzhivaniya zaprosov dalennih abonentov k baze dannyh.
U menya nikakih vihodov za rubezh net. Tel. 552-32-74
Zaranee spasibo!

Y poluhil use mnogo polozitelnix otvetov na tusovku v sentybre no paru 
helovek (is tex kto ne proh' pomoh' s organizaciej, ne mogut, t.k. 
budut na vacation v svyzi s long weekend - sorry y eto ne uhel snahala
eto m.b. problema dly mnogix, po etomu predlagau perenesti na 20/9!
send more votes!

Hello tri-staters and affiliates,

Weekend 6-7 sounds terrific,- thanx Zhenia for taking the 
initiative. I'll vote for Sunday 7th rather than Saturday,
and for Russian restaurant rather than Bear Mntn. I also
have smth. else to suggest; Sept. 7th is date for the NY 
Century bike ride. It starts and ends in Central Park, and
one has a choice of 40, 75 and 100 mile distance. It starts 
at 6:00am Sunday (ouch!); reg. fee is $35, for which they 
provide food at the rest stops and the event T-shirt. If you
ever did Bike NY,- that one is different, not so crowded
so you can go at your own pace, and beter organized,- or
at least that's what they claim.

This endevour is in no way the substitution for the social
gathering, but rather an addition for those who might be
interested. I'm gonna do it anyway; let's form "30 school
team"!

	- Victor

Reunion v NYC - idey xoroway - y lihno postoynno obwaus' po telefonu i lihno s desytkom
vipusknikov. Nado tolko rewit' mi xotim vstretitsy dnem na prirode ili veherom v restorane
 - i v kakom (v russkom ?)
Kak na shet 6 Sept. (Weekend after Labor day) - y znau hto na long weekend mnogie razeditsy

Na priporode -  30mile north of the city in Bear Mountain Park ili v tex krayx, esli konehno 
nikto ne xohet svoj backyard predostavit'. Xlite mne e-mail ili zvonite 212-573-5604w. kak mozno
 ran'we, no do 9/3. Lets do somethink on 9/6/97
Zhenia 

Hi, folks!
This message is primarily for American alumni.
Shame on us.  Israeli alumni are going to meet on August 8.  Instead of 
Manilov's projects (how to invite teachers, how to go all together to 
mother-Russia) they just have a picnic for people who can make it.  
I don't blame anybody, but I envy Israelis.  

Because New York is a "middle point", we need a volunteer from Big Apple.  
Let try to make it simple:

1. Choose any Saturday night (have month or two ahead).
2. Ask people to say "Yes, I come" or "No, sorry, I cannot make it."
3. Count people and make a reservation.
4. Ask people to send money ($50 is enough, I believe), if a reservation 
    cannot be made using credit card.

And that is it.  Volunteer from New York, please replay.  

Galina

For those who missed the opportunity that Michael Levin offered
in June: I'll be in St. Petersburg in the middle of September.
I am planning to visit Aron Ruvimovich. "If anybody wishes to
send him a letter, postcard, or something, it's a good time
to do it" (M.Levin). You can reach me by e-mail.

--Sergey "Cepera" Liberman

Dear friends,

The Israeli 30ka (38) graduates meeting will take place on Friday, 
August 8th, 1997, 14:00 at Hurshat Limor near Atlit. Drive by 
Road No.2 (Tel Aviv - Haifa) and turn to Atlit at Atlit 
Interchange, turn left on the next junction (about 100-200m) and 
continue about 100m up to eucalyptuses grove on your right 
(after Sonol station). This is the place. 

The place of our meeting, which was announced before, has been 
changed due to the Ramat HaNadiv Gardens in Zichron Yakov  
being closed every Friday from 14:00.

Pass this information to your friends, 30ka (38) graduates.

Consider this as a personal invitation and come with your family.

For those who don't have private transportation to reach the 
place - contact Venya Dysin before July 28th by 
e-mail (benj@null.net) or by telephone (052 383 181) and give 
him the following information:
- your name;
- place of living;
- number of participants.

He will collect your requests and publish them one week prior to 
the meeting by massmail and on the web page and ask the people 
with their cars to give "tramp" to others.

Bring everything what is suitable for a picnic and a barbecue.

Feel free to contact me about more info.

Best regards,
Eli Kislyuk.
Phone: 052 254 051

Just cannot help mentioning that the two previous messages
are both about delivery.

Congratulations!

Y.

Uraaa, Ia stal otzom!!!
U menia rodilas' doch'!!!

Eugene
eugene@scanvec.com

Folks,

The amount of $2,440 collected by the USA team has
been delivered to the school. I've just received
a confirmation from V.L.Il'in.

Later,	
Sasha.

Recently I made a web page basicly for my classmates (1981, 7).
It has some photos of our teachers as well.
If some of you feel like looking at old school pictures,
here is the address
http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/3700/

Dmitri

V.L. Il'in poluchil premiyu "Za zaslugi v vospitanii i 
obrazovanii podrastaushego pokoleniya". On bil prizvan 
pobeditelem v nominachii "Luchshiy pedagog".

Pozdarvleniya 

Dear friends, 30ka alumni,

"Keren 30" (Israeli fund) results as of June 18, 1997:

Total amount collected: NIS 4,130.00 
                 (about USD 1,210)
Number of participants: 19

You could find the list of contributors and everything about 
the Fund in our web page at:
http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~dima/benjamin/30-ka/fund/

You are welcome to join us. Bruchim Habaim!

Shalom from Israel,

Eli (Ilya) Kislyuk, 
coordinator of "Keren 30".

Folks,

The US team results as of June 18, 1997 (the deadline is tomorrow,
June 19th):

number of participants:    27
amount collected:          $2,368.00

(to be continued...)

Regards,
Sasha.

   Congratulations to Boris Kozintsev and all of us! This site has
been visited 10000 times in exactly 500 days of its existance (since
January 21, last year).

Folks,

Following our Israeli friends -

"USA team" results as of June 2, 1997:

Number of participants: 16
Total amount collected: $1,523.00

The deadline is June 19th. You are welcome to join us.


Regards,
Sasha.

Hi.

I am going to SPb in the end of June. I plan to visit Aron
Ruvimovich; so, if anybody wishes to send him a letter, postcard,
or something, it's a good time to do it.

My address is:

Michael Levin
3209 E. 10th street 5-L
Bloomington, IN 47408

Please notify me by e-mail if you want to send something.

ML

Friends!

   I'm pleased to introduce the official homepage of "Keren 30" -
Israeli 30-ka support fund. You are invited to refer to
http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~dima/benjamin/30-ka/fund/.

Hi, everybody. Want to make a quick personal remark regarding 
money fund issue. After reading the messages about establishing
this fund I was glad that we finally could do something good to our
school teachers in return for their efforts to make people out
of us (and, in most cases, they surprisingly succeeded, didn't they?)
I was going to send some amount to the fund (not hundreds bucks, but
as much as a recent student can). However, after this ugly brawl
on the BB has started, I'm not as excited about the idea. 
Cursing each other shows just how poorly educated are those who do
so, nothing more. Unfortunately, it kills confidence as well. The recent
letter by Alexander Gutman regarding "some" Pavel Exarkhopoulo just
showed the worst example possible of such style. Sorry, I've changed
my mind and not going to participate.
If Lenya Ioffe will be collecting money again, I'll be glad to give 
it to him - just write to my address, please.

Thanks for the attention. Denis

PS. Please, don't try to post letters regarding me on the BB or on
the mailing list - I'm not subscribed to either of them and read
it on a rare occasion, so they (the letters) won't reach the goal
but will take up server space and your time.

Dear friends,

Some crazy guys (not myself) in Israel are planning to open a computer company in S-Pt. 
It will be very appreciated if you can help them answering some q's :


- What's the average wages for a software developer; team leader, etc.?
- What's the average rent for a 2-3 room apartment for office
- Is it possible to buy Sun (SS20, Ultra-2) / SGI computers in St.Peterburg, or
  to get their service

Thanks in assistance, Alek.

Now that I've read five (if my memory serves me well) different messages 
by the individual in question, I'm disgusted enough to air my opinion of him.

In my eyes, he's the cheapest loser to have ever graduated from the school, 
with an inclanation to show off - but no ability even for that. I wish he 
could get a life.

Alexander Gutman (1978, 4)

Dear friends, 30ka alumni,

I am glad to inform you that Israeli 30ka support fund was 
founded last Friday. Its name is "Keren 30" (in Hebrew "keren" 
is "fund"). Account number is 12-747-492441 of Bank Hapoalim.

I have sent the detailed e-letter to all Israeli 30ka graduates,
whose e-addresses I found in the web list of Boris Kozintsev.
In this letter I informed how to donate to this fund and other
details. If someone of Israeli fellows didn't receive it, let me 
know by e-mail or by telephone (see below). 

Obviously, the money would be send to SPb in mid-June. During 
five first days we have gathered 1,650.00 shekels (about 
US$ 485.00). There was donations of following fellows:

Babushkin Anatoly (1976, 2);
Fialkov Dmitry    (1979, 2);
Khaikovich Boris  (1984, 4);
Khaikovich Lev    (1986, 5);
Dysin Benjamin    (1991, 2);
anonymous         (1991, 2)
and mine.

I was speaking to many fellows by telephone and understood that
most of them wants to participate and to help to our alma mater and, 
first of all, to our teachers.

If you are not from Israel and would like to make your donation to 
"Keren-30", please inform me before by e-mail. But I think, for
our american friends would be better to do it directly to your 
fund, which is managed by Sasha Davidovich.

I have a list, which includes 75 Israeli 30ka graduates. Some 
records in Boris Kozintsev's list are not updated. Please inform me 
about your changes (phone number and e-mail). If you know someone 
from Israel who is not included to BK's list, inform them about the
fund and advise to contact me.

Best regards,

Could anyone help me find the e-mail, office address or fax number 
of Professor Julia Pshenichnova, currently working in St. 
Petersburg. Any assistance would be highly appreciated.

Best wishes

Ove Caspersen

I am taking the liberty to express my opinion regarding the "Money for the 
School" issue.

1. I disagree with the idea to present the Fond as some kind of "Western Aid" 
to an undeveloped structure. I haven't been in Russia for 6 years and hardly 
ever plan to show up back there, but I have all respect in the world for the 
folks out there, including a big number of my friends and former classmates. 
I don't consider myself being a "smart one", a "reachee uncle" or whoever 
else, even in spite of my "6 figure" incomes. I believe, and I know, and I'm 
glad to realize that a lot of acquaintances of mine back in Russia are more 
successful than I am, make more $$$ and live far more interesting and 
fulfilling lives than I do here on the outskirts of the "capital of the world". 
2. One of the greatest discoveries I've made for myself as a result of my 
"migration" is the fact that there is a civilized world and there are other 
methods of doing stuff than acting "yavochn'im put'em", as the old-timer 
Kirschner used to say.
3. I do feel personally obliged to contribute into preserving and expanding 
of the great traditions of the place, which gave so much to me and literally 
shaped me up for the roughness of life - the school. And when there will be a 
Russian-based official fond, properly managed and maintained - I'll be more 
than happy to perform my duty of financial support.
4. I don't rule out an emergency situation or a case of dealing with personal 
matters when I would go around and send some small amount of cash through 
channels, not affiliated with IRS, customs or any other official structures. 
And I hope there will never be an emergency at the School that would prompt 
me to do so.

Stas.

>} This message is from Yuli Lyanda-Geller (1979-3)
>} e-mail: lyanda@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
>} [...]
>} 2. In these conditions, it is, actually, a great art to make
>} people comfortable and willing to give money.

S slovu ob iskusstve... vozvraschajas' k perezhitomu... 

Moj, mozhet byt', chrezmerno rezkij otvet Mishe Chepovetskomu,
soderzhal i tu prostuju i dostupnuju mysl', chto ja rad dat', kak
tol'ko den'gi u menja pojavjatsja. Vskorosti poluchaju
nizhesledujuschee:

        Your message is disgusting. Nobody asks 
        for your money and never will, relax.

I s kakogo by vy dumali adresa?

        sasha@btv.ibm.com

Tak chego zhe togda hochet Alexander Davidovich? Chtoby ja izognulsja
v poklone Mishe Chepovetskomu? Chto vidimo i budet dostatochno dlja
vozrozhdenija "duha"? Net, uzh luchshe detjam Germanii... Ili eto 
adres drugogo Sashi?

Pasha.

Dear Fellows:

I would like to make a few remarks about our discussion
about the fund.

1. We are all different people. Some of us idolize our
school and name our country "The Motherland" or the former
Motherland. This part of our community thinks about preserving/
restoring the school spirit. But believe or not, the others 
think that our school was the least evil within the evil empire, 
where they were lucky enough to meet good friends and just a few
outstanding teachers.

2. In these conditions, it is, actually, a great art to make 
people comfortable and willing to give money. Probably,
the classical scene from the "Heart of a Dog" by Mikhael Bulgakov
is the most adequate piece to describe the reaction of many 
people when they read letters about "spirits" and "SHNO insignia".
I will cite in transliteration:
"Professor, voz'mite zhurnaly v pomosh detyam Germanii po
poltinnichku"... -"Net, ne voz'mu"-..."Vy ne sochuvstvuete 
detyam?!"- ..."Sochuvstvuyu"...-"Tak pochemu zhe vy ne voz'mete..?"-
-"Ne khochu".

Please, fellows, agression does not help. People must 
feel comfortable doing charity. Surviving a piece of our
history, makes this a very delicate problem.

With best regards,
Yuli 

Dear Fellow 30-ka graduates, especially those of you
who graduated in 1980 and stays in St-Petersburg

I am looking for Michail Fainblat  grad. year 1980
(also known as M. Bir )
I do not remember his class number but Leda Pavlovna
was his "Klassnaya dama"
Later he studied at Politech.
Those of you who lnow where he is now, address,
phone maybe e-mail please e-mail me.  Thank you
Eugene

Dear Senya, Pasha and all other potential writers!

This is my immediate reaction upon some of the most
recent messages.  Please, don't make everybody 
read this kind of ........ (pardon me!) anymore. 
Don't you understand it could hurt other people's
feelings?  If you wish to get all squared with
somebody - please, do it privately.

Now, about the money. That's not money to spoil
(or not to spoil) a person but person's motivation.
However, it's not up to anybody to judge the spoiling
degree of each other.  But it's up to anybody to 
decide whether to give or not to give money to the
fund in question and request some control over the
money given to it.

Anyway, to control something we have first to have
something to control. And please, let's not get crazy!
There is nothing to fight about.  There is just
everybody's good will.  And trust me - the letter 
from Michael Chepovetsky was good enough to wake it 
up wherever it was possible.

Thank you for your attention, and have a good day.

Marina.

>} This message is from Senia Klebanov (4,1982)
>} e-mail: senya@akula.com
>} 
>} Dear fellows who care for the matter!

Nu-ka, Senia, davaj-ka perejdem na lichnosti (u menja eto vsegda
luchshe vsego poluchalos' :-). Kogda ty mne prisylal den'gi v Rossiju, ty
chto organizovyval Fond Vspomoschestvovanija Nuzhdajuschemusja Pashe?
Ty prosto prisylal den'gi.

Esli zhe rech' idet o fonde, to eto - obschestvennaja dejatel'nost' i
ja vprave ozhidat' nechto bol'shee, chem blagaja volja. Esli by
pis'mo o fonde prishlo ot Leni Ioffe, ja by byl gorazdo bolee
voodushevlen, potomu chto ja znaju ego kak cheloveka, sdelavshego
real'noe delo: organizovavshego pomosch' Aronu Ruvimovichu. Kstati,
pohozhe, chto ego metod (zvonit', tem kogo on lichno znaet), bolee
effektiven.

Ty, konechno, takaja ocharovatel'naja lichnost', chto u tebja i
ukradi, da ty v sledujuschij raz vsjo ravno dash'. Ja zhe, kak
podverzhennyj "common debilitating intelligenzia disease" (gospodi! i
ugorazdilo zh tebja eti meditsinskie kursy brat'!), podozhdu, i esli
tebja ne obvorujut (soobschi), to tem ljudam i otdam.

Chto zhe do

>} to give a chance to enjoy the same kind of life we had to younger
>} generations -

to-to my s toboj zdes', gde, po-vidimomu, i sozdaem "a more pleasent
psycho-social environment to ourselves".

Pasha.

Dear fellows who care for the matter!

It is perfectly fine to be rational and implement 
good rational suggestions suggested to us by 
our rationally minded experienced friends. Money
spoils. Money becomes a source of mistrust, 
animosity and even outright confrontation. It is a 
great idea to try to avoid all that. 
The other side of the coin, however, is (and was) 
this very common debilitating intelligenzia 
disease, feverish thinking complicated by action
paralysis. Well learnt. Doesn't work...

I have a relative who is just stingy. He always 
finds an excuse why not to give money to his 
child (The child doesn't work => money not earned
will spoil him. The child does work => he doesn't
need money, etc.). Everything is pretty simple, he 
just doesn't want to give money Period
Those who are genuinly cautios and serious 
adults may join upon fulfilling their suggestions 
(and relieving their anxiety)
The untouchable won't be touched anyway.

Yes, I do feel good by giving! I had a great time 
and I'd like both to help to relieve life to our 
teachers and to give a chance to enjoy the same 
kind of life we had to younger generations - 
eventually it creates a more pleasent psycho-
social environment to ourselves. I do want to
know how my money is spent and exercise some 
control over what it is spent on. I will be upset if 
the money is wasted or even stollen. 
I will, however, be much more upset to find out 
that money was not available when it was really
needed.

If the money is not spent perfectly I won't give a 
shit.  I will give money.

                                          Senia

P.S.   This letter is hardly intended to recruit. It is
even less intended to offend. It just helps me to
vent my anger with the paralysing inaction.

Happy Passover! (Hag sameah ve kasher).

Sasha.

Folks,

Long time ago I proposed an idea of financial support for the school.
Unfortunately, we couldn't organize anything "serious" due to the lack of
people willing to help. I don't want to start another agitation campaign,
I merely want to provide some more info to those alumni who care.

1) I'm going to send CASH
2) It'll be delivered by one of our graduates (who'll be visiting us shortly)
   to V.L.Il'in personally. V.L. with another teachers can decide what to do
   with the money better than anybody else.
   In the absence of any formal means, this seems to be a good way.
3) If you plan to participate, please send me a short message with the figure
   you are going to donate. If I get a lot of such messages (doubtful), I will
   have to open a special bank account and will notify all the senders.
   Otherwise, you can send me personal checks; I'll cash them and "send" the
   money to the destination.
4) I realize that many people visit the BB rarely, so please spread this
   message around.
5) I'll also send this message to the folks who had responded to the original
   posters.

Regards,
Sasha.

St.Petersburg school pages moved. Please correct your bookmarks.
Russian page: http://www.bz.spb.su/30school
English one: http://www.bz.spb.su/30school/index_eng.html

LETI is now called St. Petersburg Electrical Engineering
University. The reason is that university professors have
smaller teaching load and higher salaries than professors
of other high school institutions. 

It has no Web site.

Nothing to add.
Sincerely,
Yuli Lyanda-Geller

Does anybody know how LETI (Leningradskiy
 Elektrotekhnicheskiy Institut) is now called?
Does it have a web page?

Thanks.
Vadim.

Privet, friends.

I am posting this for my cousin, Lenya Yabloko. If anybody is
interested, please contact him.

Best,

ML

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Privet Misha,
Can you place this on your news board? Thanks a lot! 

We are looking for young aggressive bright hard-working people to grow
the resent start-up medical information services company and enjoy our
challenging "can do it" atmosphere as well as the benefits of ownership.
It is a unique "ground floor" opportunity for Internet-oriented people.
All levels of computer expertise are welcomed. C/C++,HTML,CGI etc.
We are located in NY/NJ area. Please contact immediately Len Yabloko
at 914-634-9686.

Len Yabloko - len@datacap.com - 914-332-7515 x180

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Dear friends,
Here is some latest information about Hale-Bopp comet
that I've just recieved from our university's Space Telescope Institute.
Enjoy!

With warmest regards.
Yuriy Gusev (1975)
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 11:53:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Space Telescope Institute STI@jhu.edu
To: Yuriy Gusev 

Latest Press Release from the Space Telescope Institute:

        An unprecedented series of observations from the Hubble Space Telescope
has revealed a new surprises about comet Hale-Bopp.

        The comet thrilled astronomers as it displayed unusual outbirsts of
increased
brightness. By using a spectrograph to analyse ultraviolet light from the 
comet, scientists leaned that the components of its frozen solid nucleus 
apparently are composed from different materials that astronomers would 
have expected. They found traces of proteins, fatic acids, carbohydrates
and , surprisingly, some traces of enzimes typically found in yeast. 
The findings were detailed in the last Friday publication in the journal Science , 
just in time for the comet's rendezvous with the sun on April 1st when it 
peaks in brightness.
        
        These findings provide new information about the composition and 
structure of comets, which are believed to be remnants from the formation
of the solar system, about 4,6 billion years ago. So, leaning more about 
the comets can provide important information about the materials and 
processes that formed the solar system. According to latest findings the 
solid center of the comet is most likely a muschy mixture of frozen chemical 
components, the most abundunt of which is probably a frozen milk.      

        By studying images taken with the Hubble telescope, the astronomers
have estimated that it's nucleus may be 30 to 40 kilometers in diameter
thus representing the biggest chunk of an ice-cream ever seen. 
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Tovarishi! Zametno yavnoe pribligenie vesny. V svyazi s 
neumolimo nadvigaushimsya perelomom, perehodam  i pereletom 
tepla neobhodim shenyachii vostorg nemedleeno, v bol'shih 
kolichestvah i v kratchaishie sroki. Postovshikov prosim 
obrashat'sya v bligishii punkty priema steklotary a takge 
komitet po pereob'edineniu i edineniu. Vse narodu Sovetskogo 
Sousa vyrogaut vseobshuu radost' kagdoi protalinke i 
podsolnuhu, a takge pozdravlyut drugestvennuyh nam gumanoidov 
so slavnoi pobedoi.

ranne-vesennya rech

S pogelaniyami shast'ya
Const *

PS/2 Vyragayu svoi soboleznovaniya vsem tem u kogo eshe zima 
(ne putat' s polu alkogol'nym napitkom ZIMA) i plohoe 
nastroenie, moget ono eshe uluchshitsya..

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     Narod!
  Vot ja uzhe 4 goda zhivu v Israile. Zhutko soskuchilsia po vsem,
s kem uchilsia. Ochen budu rad, esli mne kto-nibud' otvetit,
Vsem privet,
                                          Roman Podlisk.

  Hi,

     Esli  vy  soglasny  pomoch  mne   uznat  address  NPO "ROTOR"
v  S-Pb  ,vrode ,  to  otvette  POZALUJSTA.

   Ja  student  University  at  Buffalo  v  USA .  Ja  Russkij  
grazdanin  i  rodom  iz  Kupchino.

                                         Poka.  
                                      Mikhail.

Hello. I didn't give up the idea of the reunion, just got distructed
for a while. Anyway, what I suggest is the following. To get started,
we need a volunteer for treasurer to collect money. Then we set a
tentative date (in summer?), and whoever is interested should mail
a check for the amount yet to be specified to the treasurer or directly
to the bank, and an email or letter to me with his/her email/phone #
for the record. Then after the deadline (say, 2-3 weeks before the
selected date) we close the list, reserve a restaurant and finally
have our reunion. The things to think about:

1. How much do we charge. That depends on whether we want (and are able)
to invite our teachers for the event. Of course, it will be great if 
we could do it. The road blocks:
  - unfortunatelly, we wan't be able to invite everyone. So, we'll
    have to choose. Now: different people might have different priorities, 
    and there is an ethics problem; we'll insult the ones who don't get
    invited.

  - even if we collect enough money and decide to go ahead, it
    involves much more effort than the rest of the enterprise.
    Any volunteers?   

2. I think it is possible to open a special account, so people can 
send their contributions directly to the bank. I can check into that,
although I definitely don't want to be a tresurer.

Please let me know what you think about it. Let's get it off the
ground!

        - Victor

I am sorry if it's not the most appropriate place for this
note but maybe it can help to someone.

Deapartment of Medical Biophysics and Nuclear Medicine
of Hadassah University Hospital in Jerusalem has a job
position for a scientific research programmer.
They are looking for somebody with a background of doing
computer programming in medical/scientific research so 
this is not the general sort of technical/commercial
programming job - they want someone with a math/science
background and preferably experience of mathematical 
modelling and image processing.
Those interested are welcome to contact Chana Freedman
at , tel in Jerusalem 6777148,
fax +972-2-6421203 (tell her that you got the information
from me)
Good luck!  Luda

Dear fellow 30/38 school graduates,

The following has been changed on our web  site:

  (1) It is now possible to view a subset of
      the sorted-by-year list at 
      http://www.math.umd.edu/~bak/30/search.cgi
      
      Therefore you can quickly tell whether your
      year have changed without having to download the 
      whole list.
      
      Note that you can bookmark your query or,
      following Yuriy Koblents-Mishke, feed it to 
      the "url-minder" at http://www.netmind.com/URL-minder/new/
      
  (2) Messages posted in 1996 were removed from
      the Bulletin Board (but are still accessible
      from the link there).

  (3) For those of you in the northern hemisphere --
      the spring is coming!
 
Sincerely, 
            
           Boris Kozintsev

I am trying to locate a teacher/professor by the name of 
Yulia Pshenichnova. I would apprecaie any help or suggestions 
that you could give.

David Sullivan
London

Dear 1982 year graduates and USA based alumnis!
I will very much appreciate if you can forward me 
Senia Klebanov actual address. My attemprts to reach him
via e-mail were not successful so far.
Or just tell him to write me or Eugene Kogan at 
eugene@kosta.spb.su
Many thanks in  advance		Eugene

I am looking for someone who was attending school #559 in 
St. Peterburg before January 1991.  If someone can answer me or can 
help me to find the connection to this school, Please help!!!
Thank you.

I send warm greetings and congratulations on the New Year 1997
to all alumni and, in particular, teachers of our school.

I would like to propose, simultaneously, a couple of ideas
connected to the Bulletine Board. 

Dear Friends:
Actually, for every e-mail list and the bulletine board,
certain rules exist. 

1. The most important is that messages
which are not connected to a list or BB should not be sent.

2. Also, a very important rule on using BB is that private type 
messages, comminicating information about health of induviduals 
related to community, should not appear without permission
by these induviduals. These messages should not be send to 
e-mail lists as well, but can be distributed only in personal
e-mail communication.

3. Next, if one sends a poem or a story, one should quote the 
author, and respect the copyright, but see rule 1.

4. A few technicalities. Messages should not be submitted
twice. One message with two subjects is better than two with
one subject each. Also, it is better not to send messages
with more than 72 symbols in a single line.

Thank you very much in advance for considering these 
rules for BB.

My best wishes.
Yuli Lyanda-Geller